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Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.

Started by ramset, April 26, 2015, 09:52:03 AM

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MileHigh

Well, if you want to improve your understanding, the tidal ship in the Bay of Fundy does not use gravity as an energy source.  It uses the Earth's rotational energy as the energy source.  You slow down the rotational speed of the Earth when you do that.

Does the number 6.67 x 10^-11 mean anything to you?  If not, you have to look it up.  That will explain the gravity field.

MarkE

Quote from: LibreEnergia on April 29, 2015, 01:37:03 AM
I'm convinced you are completely clueless about basic physics concepts.  The earth - moon system can of course provide energy in the form of tides to move ships or whatever up and down. This does NOT mean gravity is "non- conservative".  The tides is powered by the earth - moon rotation slowing and the two bodies slowly moving apart.

Gravity would be "non conservative" ONLY if we could magically restore the earth and moon to their original positions without expending the same amount of energy as is dissipated as they move apart.  Given the tides dissipate gravitational potential at the rate of about 5 terawatts, that's a whole lot of energy going the be required to move them back into their original positions. 

Maybe Wayne Travis can help us with that... :)
Poor "honest" Wayne Travis had a disappointing 2014 and 2015 isn't shaping up to be any better.  When he "wasn't looking for investors" he was hoping to land a big whale to the tune of $1 billion dollars.  Guess what?  It never happened. 

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on April 29, 2015, 12:08:48 AM
But you are as anyone with a basic working knowledge of physics and reading comprehension can see.
You pride your self on thinking you know all there is to know Mark. You sit and type with the feeling that you are infallible,and yet,even I(along with my terrible comprehension),a truck driver,have proven you wrong before. You frequent this forum often,dismissing idea's that others have,simply because it dosnt comply with your book's. How is it you can state things like a PM only motor will never work,and yet not even you know what the magnetic force is. This is a !best guess! you are having when you make claims like this. Just last week on the !open systems! thread,we were doing some calculation's. All was good until i gave you some results which you calculated,and because these results didnt conform with the ideal's,you just quit the job-->no more input until i gave you the workings of the device. What a copout that was,but typical in this situation.

I called you on your statements here on this thread,and showed how (in the here and now)that gravity and bouyancy can give rise to potential energy for us to use as we will. But you guys always want to see a self contained system that sit's on the bench running away,while you overlook the vast amount of energy that can be had with a device that you say dosnt work.

You have two opposite forces working here.
The bouyant force acting on a bouyant vessel gives an upward force on that vessel.
The gravitational force pulls down on that same vessel. here you have a sine wave of energy waiting to be tapped into,and one day this will be achieved when man is smart enough to enclose the system.

Im sorry Mark,but your negativity and tunnel vision is getting boaring and quite annoying.
I gave you one example of an energy increase in a device,and you took off like a chicken that spotted a fox. That was an extreemly clear example of energy being taken from the enviroment,which could then be made to do useful work. And the thing is,that energy(after doing work)was put back into the enviroment from where it came-->energy conserved.

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on April 29, 2015, 01:39:33 AM
Well, if you want to improve your understanding, the tidal ship in the Bay of Fundy does not use gravity as an energy source.  It uses the Earth's rotational energy as the energy source.  You slow down the rotational speed of the Earth when you do that.

Does the number 6.67 x 10^-11 mean anything to you?  If not, you have to look it up.  That will explain the gravity field.
You slow down nothing,because the mass of the earth as a whole has not increased. Regardless of wether that ship was there or not,the earths rotational rate would decrease by the same amount,as the same mass was moved in the rise of the tide. What you say MH is like saying a ton of grass is heavier than a ton of rock. So what will slow down the earths rotation more-->50 000 tons of water being raised 14 meters,or 50 000 tons of ship being raised 14 meters?. Mass is directly proportional to gravity,and as we have the same mass amount,then nothing has changed as far as gravitational pull go's,and thus the earths rotation would slow no more than it would if the ship wasnt there. The earth has a set amount of mass,and only things like meteorites can increase the mass of the earth. So as our mass remains constant,then so dose the decrease in rotational speed of the earth due to gravitational drag.

sterlinga

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 28, 2015, 06:21:59 PM
Gaia AuKW failure Power went out at Rosch in Spich Germany

I saw this unfold. I happened to check the feed when it was dark (except for emergency light overhead). I informed Roberto.

I've posted my take on this at http://peswiki.com/index.php/Blog:GAIA%27s_AuKW_Demo#AuKW_goes_dark.3B_Livestream_goes_down

I don't see it as evidence of fraud. I see it as Murphy's law in action. The system went down. They fired it back up.
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