Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.

[MarkE]

With the apparatus as set-up you have not performed any useful work.  See how much useful work you can do by any means from your now 30 liters of 16.2 psi gauge air.  A simple test to see if it is more than 10 liters of 40 psi gauge air is to devise a scheme where you end up with 10 liters of 40 psi gauge air again, and some additional non zero quantity of air still above zero gauge, or alternately fill more than 10 liters to 40 psi gauge, or 10 liters to more than 40 psi gauge.

[profitis]

Quote Libre-energia:'Solar panels are ~30% efficient at best. There is no chance of them becoming anywhere near 100 per cent efficient.'

You sure about this?there are caesium based panels which can push 60% and up

[tinman]

I've got absolutely zero interest in providing cash for you to test a looped system though, as I already know what the result would be.

I'd have thought that you'd recognise that performing such a test would perhaps be the simplest way to test your hypothesis that this device provides for an energy increase. What you have done so far does NOT preclude the result that all you have done is create a more efficient nozzle.

Please explain as to how a nozzle can increase the energy within two vessel's to over 100%.

This device has nothing in common with the well established principle of turning light into electrical energy such as occurs in a solar panel. Solar panels are ~30% efficient at best. There is no chance of them becoming anywhere near 100 per cent efficient, let alone the 133% you seem to be claiming for a venturi nozzle.

Nope-you got it wrong again. The venturi increased the energy within the two vessels to 110%-->this was MarkE's calculations with the numbers i provided,not the 133% you claim. The 133% result was with the use of a ram-->not the venturi.

If you are going to quote people,make sure you are quoting the correct results with the correct device. All the information on these results is on the open systems thread-which i thought you were following correctly when you made your statements.

Solar panels are ~30% efficient at best. There is no chance of them becoming anywhere near 100 per cent efficient

Another incorrect statement. You mean to say-->solar pannels only convert 30% of the suns energy that they recieve to electrical energy,the rest is transformed into heat,and a portion is reflected. For some one that insists on going by the book,you sure do miss a lot.

Oh,and for the record,over here in Australia,we have solar pannels that top 40% sun light to electrical energy conversion. The good news is that now they have managed to put all this into one cell insted of four.
http://rt.com/business/212383-australia-record-solar-energy/

[allcanadian]

Hey tinman

Please explain as to how a nozzle can increase the energy within two vessel's to over 100%.

I don't see much sense in trying to debate this with the critics because there is no real debate in it. However others might be interested in finding creative solutions that work. Your venturi nozzle is an interesting idea because if the pressure is converted to kinetic energy then it may absorb heat from ambient and add it when this kinetic energy is converted back to pressure inside the tank. In effect a heat pump and some early refrigeration systems used compressed air.


I have done a great deal of R&D and over the years found most all Free Energy relates to a single statement. Action A is transformed into another form having no direct relation to reaction B allowing it to interact with C (the external environment) thus A-C upon conversion may increase B. The reaction B is not dictated by action A alone but the extent of interaction with C.


So simple and yet the critics must in every case deny the external environment even exists. It is a fools game played out by senile old men stuck in the past in my opinion. It's the same old story and if were not part of the solution then we are the problem.


AC

[sterlinga]

Hi Sterling,
unlike your site where most comments are suppressed and posters banned (again) you are always welcome to post your opinions here or at Revolution-Green.com
As you know form many years experience, not one QMoGen you either reported on or promoted with you fee for story journalism approach has ever worked out. Not one has been independently verified or gone into production. So why carry on with this delusional fantasy?


Speaking of fantasy, on a personnel note I was wondering
1. Did Jesus ever come for supper after you invited him ?
2. Did the young ,famous violinist you were stalking ever take you up on a date ?
3. Are you still expecting to be arrested for your self confessed inappropriate sexual behavior ?
4. Do you still believe anyone takes you seriously anymore or wants to be associated with you given the above questions?


I also find it amusing you would post here given the hatchet job and bad mouthing your moderator Stuart is giving Stefan. Stefan is well respected by all and is also entitled to an opinion without emotive and derogatory comments being made.


On a positive note some of your recent stories have been balanced and well written


Kind regards and best wishes
Mark Dansie


Kind Regards
Mark

Unlike you, I have patience and hope in a better future. Things don't have to happen today for them to be viable future possibilities.

Yes, I'm still holding out for amazing things in my personal quest. Yes, I did have some interesting conversations with a certain celebrity.

As I told you in the PESN comments where you posted your usual pathological skepticism:

REPRINT:
Remember, this comment [referring to Dansie] is coming from Mr. "guilty until proven innocent" attitude, who has no qualms about that and is actually proud of it.   It's also coming from Mr. "show me the data" who doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job (lack of core courage/honesty to see/accept what is blatant). It also comes from someone who doesn't see any core problems with Socialism, which is another word for tyranny by government.
There are over 50 independent groups worldwide from 17+ countries who think they have come up with this on their own, and have shown interesting videos demonstrating it. I think it's safe to say there is something to it.
See our listing at http://QMoGen.com
I think the reason none of them have given an indisputable proof, and why none of them have come to market is because free energy is all about freedom; and right now, having sewn wickedness, the world doesn't yet deserve freedom, they deserve the tyranny they are getting. That's why I've been focusing on spiritual stuff in recent times, to help bring about a major spiritual awaking on the planet, so we can avert the incarceration the world is heading toward, aka New World Order, global police state, martial law, Jade Helm, etc.
That Rosch/GAIA are now coming forward, so close to market, makes me think we might be on the brink of a major spiritual awakening, or this wouldn't be so close. If that awakening doesn't happen, then things will keep "popping up" to prevent the full  roll-out until it does -- unless they opt to target individuals and groups who are awake, and don't try to go mainstream. To a large extent, I would argue that this is what has been going on by default, since at this point, it is mostly only the "awake" who have been attracted to this to the point of being pioneers to get the first systems as they become available.