How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW

[MarkE]

I follow this investigation/stories about the Rosch Kinetic Power Plant for some time now. I respect the decision of Stuart and Sterling to go to Germany to see with their own eyes if this new way of energy harvesting is real. My question is; Suppose it is true, what now? Despite all the skepticism in this and other forums; what are you people go to do now? Nothing to argue about anymore. After years of longing for an abundance of energy, we are there at the wider horizon. Limitless energy for all. Leaving some of the OU forum members in total desperation. Because they search for the impossible and not the chance that PM and OU just exist. Why not making a small KPP for our family and friends? Although we don't understand the principle by now, if it works, it is worth making a replica of the mechanics and electric circuit. We can be part of this energy revolution. Just as we where part of the information revolution after the introduction of the home PC, mid eighties.

It is a bucket of water for crying out loud.  This is as insane as when Sterling believed that an empty rusting metal box was a working free energy machine.

Before you decide that I have a closed mind:  Rosch claim that the tall water column (big bucket of water) plus its rusting internal buckets, sprockets, and chains produces output energy on its shaft far in excess of the compressed air at its input.  They claim the excess is so great that when used to drive a generator, the generator in turn runs the compressor making up for all the inefficiencies along the way and has power to spare.  But no one, including anyone from the group that was there with PESN, and not PESN either, measured the mechanical output of the water column machinery.  In fact Rosch has never produced any measurements of that from any of their machines. 

So, on the one hand we have thousands of years experience that passive things:  rocks, sprockets, chains, bags of wet hammers, buckets of water are passive, IE they do not produce energy, and on the other we have Rosch's claims which no one, even Rosch has shown any evidence to substantiate.  In the weeks before their trip, many implored upon PESN to develop a test plan that would evaluate Rosch's claims simply and unambiguously.  PESN did not publish a test plan, and it appears that neither PESN nor anyone else in their group took any quantitative measurements at all.

I will give you a hint:  Watch the videos of the device if you like, or just examine the photos taken of the machine running posted at PESN that show the horizontal chain between the water column and the alleged generator.  PESN's Stuart Campbell confirmed and it can be seen in video that the chain rotates anti-clockwise facing the water column, and clockwise facing the shaft output of the motor as indicated by the arrows drawn on each.  Let the chain be your qualitative torque sensor.  See what you see.

[minnie]

     To get a bit of an idea a micro hydro 15kw would have a head of
say 40 metres and a flow rate of 60 litres a second.
   Look at a 15kw. hydro on YouTube and listen to it too!
          John.

[MarkE]

     To get a bit of an idea a micro hydro 15kw would have a head of
say 40 metres and a flow rate of 60 litres a second.
   Look at a 15kw. hydro on YouTube and listen to it too!
          John.

Watch the buckets slowly turning over in the videos.  It's a complete joke:  A joke that has completely taken in PESN.

[hartiberlin]

Another unbalanced wheel concept based on buoyancy and the hydrostatic paradoxon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtag7UeBOgY

This is much more clever and I have not yet seen anybody busting it...

Any idea ?

[MarkE]

Another unbalanced wheel concept based on buoyancy and the hydrostatic paradoxon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtag7UeBOgY

This is much more clever and I have not yet seen anybody busting it...

Any idea ?

Like many other unbalanced wheel ideas he ignores angles.  Start iwth energy end with energy and it is usually easy to get the right answer.  If you work in force then you are often stuck performing tedious and error prone integrals.