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How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW

Started by hartiberlin, May 05, 2015, 10:41:49 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: Berto3 on June 24, 2015, 04:41:41 PM
@MarkE
Thanks for the exegesis of my latest observation. I wonder if you were the best in the bible class. You are so resolute that Rosch KPP is a fake; no room for doubt. That's exactly whats going on. It's yes or no. No room in this 'fake KPP threat' for...maybe.
Maybe gives an opening to explore and that is not happening here. b.t.w. A good critic is an observator and not a dictator.
Rosch and their supporters are free to attempt to present reliable evidence at any time that would raise doubt against the presently irrefutable evidence against their claims.  Please:  Be my guest.  Pretending that First Principles do not apply because someone's claims depend on that fantasy doesn't create evidence in support of the fantasy.  So, please:  observe away.  Show reliable evidence that Rosch's rusting tower of trash produces energy net of its input.

verpies

Quote from: MileHigh on June 24, 2015, 04:21:26 PM
I read up a bit today on this and it looks like it might be the old "generator is actually a powered motor" scam.
To test this idea it would be enough to compare the tension on the top of the chain loop, linking the motor/generator, to the bottom of the chain loop.

Can this test be done visually without touching the chain ?  e.g. the looser side of the chain should droop down or vibrate with lower frequency and higher amplitude.

If this cannot be done contactlessly then the next engineer that goes there for a demo, should bring a contact chain tension meter with them.

MarkE

Quote from: verpies on June 28, 2015, 01:03:25 AM
To test this idea it would be enough to compare the tension on the top of the chain loop, linking the motor/generator, to the bottom of the chain loop.

Can this test be done visually without touching the chain ?  e.g. the looser side of the chain should droop down or vibrate with lower frequency and higher amplitude.

If this cannot be done contactlessly then the next engineer that goes there for a demo, should bring a contact chain tension meter with them.
Take a pencil and ruler to the still shots.  Two straight lines one drawn tangent to the chain from each side and extending to the other end.  The included angle at each is the change in slope across the droop.  I have done that and posted the results at R-G.

Spilled Fluids

Quote from: MarkE on June 28, 2015, 04:27:08 AM
Take a pencil and ruler to the still shots.  Two straight lines one drawn tangent to the chain from each side and extending to the other end.  The included angle at each is the change in slope across the droop.  I have done that and posted the results at R-G.

there are enough shots of the chain with the droop on the top side to make this conclusive evidence of a motor drive rather than a generator. Nine of fourteen pictures that Sterling took show this droop.

MarkE

The droop on the top versus the bottom is a tell-tale.  It is in one of the first two pictures that Stuart posted.  That is why I asked him to confirm the rotation direction.  Stuart on PESN insists that the top was more tense than the bottom.  He has not attempted to show that in any of the pictures.