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The bearing motor

Started by tinman, May 28, 2015, 11:10:41 PM

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MileHigh

Well because of my initial mistake with the direction of the current in the added wire, I was flummoxed when the motor initially did not work when I checked it in my head.  Then I discovered my mistake and edited the diagram.

The mistake turned me into an inventor.  AC would be proud.  It might not be penicillin, but my error allowed me to stumble into bold new realms.  I present to you the "Grasshopper Oscillator."

MileHigh

QuoteOK,so now all you have to do MH is explain as to how the bearing motor will spin in either direction,where as the homopolar motors direction of spin is determond by the direction of current flow,or the orientation of the magnetic fields.

I gave you a possible explanation for that in post #33.

MileHigh

QuoteI have looked at many diagrams as to how the homopolar motor is suppose to work,and it still dose not answer the question as to how the uniform stationary magnetic field around the wire creates a unidirectional force against the uniform magnetic field around the magnet. I see lots of pretty arrows around the wire and the PM,and all explanations say that the field around the wire pushes against the field lines of the PM-->the PM has no field line's,it is a uniform field. Mag's experiment also shows that something is being missed here.

I dont think anyone has actually stood back and had a good look at the homopolar motor,they just except what some one else has told them.

Now,below is a pic showing the fields and force direction of the homopolar motor.
So,we have an even uniform field around the magnet(there are no field lines),and we have a uniform field around the current carrying wire. We also see an arrow showing a force direction.
So please explain to me how this force is not uniform around the wire-->why is this force in only one direction when the two fields are uniform. Why dose the arrow showing force not point backwards-why dose it point forward?. This is like sticking your finger through the side of a bucket of water,and saying there is more pressure on one side of your finger than there is on the other.

Is how the homopolar motor works clear to you now?  Did you "fill in the blanks" when you add the second wire?

QuoteWhy dose the arrow showing force not point backwards-why dose it point forward?

Why does the force point in the direction it points in?  Have you mastered the business about the Lorentz force and the associated cross-product between the current flow and the external magnetic field?

If you are going to move forward then you need to understand how the homopolar motor works and it all should be as clear as a bell to you.  To me it seems like you get stopped at the first hurdle you come across and then right away you are suggesting that there is some "monkeyshines" solution to explain what you are observing.  The reality is that it's never the case.  Instead of waiting for someone to spoon-feed you the answer to get yourself past the first hurdle you need to put the effort in to work through the problem and arrive at a solution that you understand from the ground up.

The homopolar motor is a trivial example of the interaction between an external magnetic field and a current-carrying wire.  It needs to be understood fully.

MileHigh

So, Brad, why am I pushing this issue?

It's because of bullshit like this:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAl1LVPbYhY

That's good old "Al" a.k.a. "ACCA."   In the clip he says, "A tornado type of magnetic field that is unknown to science."

All that he is doing is showing his ignorance about magnetic fields and his stupidity when he "makes up" a bunch of incorrect crap to supposedly explain the swirling water and bubbles in his many "aquarium" clips.

"I see swirling water in my experiment therefore the magnetic field must be a spinning vortex" is just plain stupidity.  Chances are Al never opened up a book to try to figure out what was going on and he is displaying his ignorance and his foolish arrogance by "teaching" people complete BS.  That crap has to be fixed and I realize that it is a continuous uphill battle on a free energy forum.

tinman

I see you did what everyone else dose when i ask the question MH,your answer is just to quote the lorentz force without explaining why the lorentz force acts in only one direction. The lorentz force direction is an aplication,not an answer. It is just the same with the magnetic field-->we dont know what the magnetic force is-it just is.

Below is a pic of the magnetic field around a current carrying wire. The field is uniform,and the arrows mean nothing. There is also a pic of the field around a PM.You will see a red dot-that is our current carrying wire touching the center of a rod magnet. So picture the wire coming from your eyes,and going straight into the magnet. So as we can see,we have a static field around the wire imerced in a static field around the rod magnet. We apply current and the magnet spins.

So now,why is the force from the wire pushing on one side of the magnetic field of the magnet,and not the other side with the same amount of force-when both magnetic fields are uniform. The field from the magnet is exactly the same in front of the wire as it is behind the wire. The field around the wire is also uniform. So why is there a force in the direction of the green arrow,and not the blue arrow-as everything is the same as far as fields go.

And since when did applying a force to a magnetic field cause the magnet to spin?<--in this situation. The same should apply in reverse. We should be able to spin the magnet,and create a force-right?. No ,we cant,because the field on either side of the wire is uniform.

It's like i said,most dont stop and have a really good look at what there being asked to accept.
This is much like the homopolar generator-why do you have to spin it to get current from it. Why dosnt it matter wether or not the magnets spin with the disk?. The reasons given are just another hack job at what isnt yet understood,and that is the magnetic field.