About the Torbay concept (and I do mean concept)

[roggy32]

Your center magnet is too small. It looks like just one magnet like the outside magnets, look at shipto's video and the drawings from the original patent. http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/Walter_Torbay/Walter_Torbay_Patent.pdf

[roggy32]

center magnet dimensions are on the last page.

[Craigy]

I would agree that with only one magnet on the rotor which looks as if the field would only cover 30 degrees at best. The rotor magnet or magnets plural should cover 170 - 180 degrees of the rotor. You should at least get 180 degrees of powered rotation like that before encountering the typical problem of getting the stators down.

With 8 stators, your lonely rotor magnet is only being pushed by the magnet behind leading edge

I would agree with most of your observations, the up, down, Shake it all around ramp.. etc.is so full of friction that an alternative way of doing the same should thought about.

Craig

[allcanadian]

That darn torbay machine just won't go away!
I saw this post and started thinking again-which is never a good thing, he must have balanced forces there is no other way.
A spring could pull the stator arms down to match the repulsion force, but you would see them. But torbay uses a large base, so why not use a magnet in the base to match an attractive force with a repulsive force. The cam lifts the stator magnet at just the right time to match the repulsion in the rotor to the attractive force between the stator arm and a magnet under the stator arm. The rotor is attracted to the gap in the stator magnets and when it leaves the attraction magnet under pulls the stator arm back down.
That's my theory, It's all I got on this one.

[lwh]

Your center magnet is too small...

Mmm, that's what I said in my first post. 

That darn torbay machine just won't go away!
I saw this post and started thinking again-which is never a good thing, he must have balanced forces there is no other way...

Just let it go mate.  Or do something about it.  I understand the attraction, but in my opinion, the best anyone's going to get with a properly balanced Torbay design is something that will spin as if the magnets weren't there in the first place, with perhaps one added advantage.  And that is, you might end up with something similar to what you'd get if you were to balance a large weight on some roller bearings and start it spinning.  Inertia(?) will keep it going until the unavoidable frictions wear it down to a stop.  The 'weight' in this case though will be provided by the strength of, and degree of repulsion between, the magnets. 

At the risk of sounding rude, I'd like to say at this point I have nothing more to add to this subject (Torbay motor) that I haven't already said, and so won't be responding here again unless someone has some specific questions I might be able to answer.  If I were to continue discussing it without repeating myself I'd only end up raising questions about Torbay himself (his motivations, accountability etc), and I don't want to get into that (tempting though it may be).

Les.