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Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor

Started by DreamThinkBuild, July 05, 2015, 05:31:08 PM

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knovos


Floor

Looking forward to your findings with this kind of configuration.
... ... ... ... ... ... ...

In general..

At from  very near  to   near   distances
attractions are stronger than repulsions. 

At far distances
repultions are stronger than attractions.

Of course,  both  the attractions and the repulsions are weaker at
farther distances.

There is a range of distance in which
         there is a cross over
                        and
attraction becomes equal to repulsion.

       also

The     far ends or poles     of the magnets can be more involved in the
interactions than one might expect.

Force neutralization between 3 magnets

      Part 1 @ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0md2
      Part 2 @ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7f0o4w
... ... ... ... ... ...
                              In this magnet configuration
                            only two magnets are involved.

                     @ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wfk0d

           Force neutralization occurs as a result of N to S and  N to S balancing.

       The back sides or faces of the the magnets are very involved in the interactions.

knovos

Quote from: Floor on January 23, 2022, 07:40:00 PM
Looking forward to your findings with this kind of configuration.

                              In this magnet configuration
                            only two magnets are involved.


I have seen with my own eyes and you can also in the video, that this configuration with only two magnets works (no offense).
That is amazing and that's why I'm trying to replicate this device which is very good explained by Ufopolitics. The big question is that I'm trying to replace the air pressure with a mechanical solution.
This could be a disaster, we will see.


Ufopolitics

Hello Knovos,


Your design is very well done!!
Your setup is nice, although there are some things that need some repair before you go to the real build.

First, your actuator on the rotor, to push the lower cam under the magnet is set off in timing.


Second: The actuation of the retracting magnet must be very sharp and abruptly and right at the spot where I am pointing in my RIGHT SIDE graphic.
Other words, it can NOT be a smooth curve before the timing mark, otherwise you will weaken the attraction before the repulse magnet has passed Bisector, hence it will not run, but kick in the reverse sense than shown.

In order to make a mechanical system that replaces the air valve and piston, it MUST work exactly the same way!

You are welcome to make your own thread on my Builder's Thread about Luling


Lüling Builder´s Thread


You are welcome to open a "New Topic" there, any help, just ask me.

I am very glad that someone at last, get hands on a CAD and start working this!!
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Ufopolitics

@Knovos,


Here is the "Whole Picture" so you understand it completely... 8)


On the Right hand side I made a Graphic of Time/Degrees of Rotation versus Gap Separation...

The Blue Curve is exactly what we are looking for, in order to obtain MAX Rotation (one thing here, the more the Gap separates, the stronger the Repulse Forces, then, the Faster and Higher Torque the Motor will run)


The Red Curve is WRONG, and it is what We obtain when using a typical Cam-Cam Follower...and the problem is, as you can notice, that starts separating magnet BEFORE Zero mark, which is where all magnets are aligned by same Bisector Line.




Cheers




Ufopolitics
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