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Odd and unusual Laws and troubling times for FE research

Started by ramset, July 25, 2015, 07:10:09 PM

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ramset


Here I would like to discuss Gov't laws suppressing OUR researchers around the globe,  What do we know about this and how legal are these laws ??
also for discussion here are some other Odd laws which I actually have a hard time believing exist. One such example is posted below
from member Turion at Energetic forum

 
Turion
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Keep away from the Aliens!

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This really doesn't belong on an energy forum, but it was so interesting I just had to post it SOMEWHERE. Why do we need laws on the books in this country prohibiting us from contact with aliens and allowing the government to inprison us without due process for contact with aliens if aliens do not exist. Just a thought...

On 5 October 1982, Dr. Brian T. Clifford of the Pentagon announced at a press conference (The Star, New York, 5 October 1982) that contact between U.S. citizens and extra-terrestrials or their vehicles is strictly illegal. According to a law already on the books (Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations, adopted on 16 July 1969, before the Apollo moon shots), anyone guilty of such contact automatically becomes a wanted criminal to be jailed for one year and fined U.S. $5,000. The NASA administrator is empowered to determine, with or without a hearing, that a person or object has been "extra-teirestrially exposed" and impose an indeterminate quarantine under armed guard, which could not be broken even by court order. There is no limit placed on the number of individuals who could thus be arbitrarily quarantined. The definition of "extra-terrestrial exposure" is left entirely up to the NASA administrator, who is thus endowed with total dictatorial powers to be exercised at his slightest caprice, which is completely contrary to the Constitution.
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from discussion here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20206-keep-away-aliens.html



To Be clear I am very interested in what we can find out about Gov't suppression of technologies that would end this Horrible Global warming   ::) as well as these oil wars and endless battles .

please contribute whatever you can
respectfully
Chet K
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

MarkE

Quote from: ramset on July 25, 2015, 07:10:09 PM
Here I would like to discuss Gov't laws suppressing OUR researchers around the globe,  What do we know about this and how legal are these laws ??
also for discussion here are some other Odd laws which I actually have a hard time believing exist. One such example is posted below
from member Turion at Energetic forum

 
Turion
QUOTE

Keep away from the Aliens!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This really doesn't belong on an energy forum, but it was so interesting I just had to post it SOMEWHERE. Why do we need laws on the books in this country prohibiting us from contact with aliens and allowing the government to inprison us without due process for contact with aliens if aliens do not exist. Just a thought...

On 5 October 1982, Dr. Brian T. Clifford of the Pentagon announced at a press conference (The Star, New York, 5 October 1982) that contact between U.S. citizens and extra-terrestrials or their vehicles is strictly illegal. According to a law already on the books (Title 14, Section 1211 of the Code of Federal Regulations, adopted on 16 July 1969, before the Apollo moon shots), anyone guilty of such contact automatically becomes a wanted criminal to be jailed for one year and fined U.S. $5,000. The NASA administrator is empowered to determine, with or without a hearing, that a person or object has been "extra-teirestrially exposed" and impose an indeterminate quarantine under armed guard, which could not be broken even by court order. There is no limit placed on the number of individuals who could thus be arbitrarily quarantined. The definition of "extra-terrestrial exposure" is left entirely up to the NASA administrator, who is thus endowed with total dictatorial powers to be exercised at his slightest caprice, which is completely contrary to the Constitution.
END QUOTE

from discussion here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20206-keep-away-aliens.html



To Be clear I am very interested in what we can find out about Gov't suppression of technologies that would end this Horrible Global warming   ::) as well as these oil wars and endless battles .

please contribute whatever you can
respectfully
Chet K
LOL, good luck finding actual documentation to support that conspiracy theory.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-1999-title14-vol5/pdf/CFR-1999-title14-vol5-part1211.pdf

gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on July 25, 2015, 07:22:20 PM
LOL, good luck finding actual documentation to support that conspiracy theory.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-1999-title14-vol5/pdf/CFR-1999-title14-vol5-part1211.pdf

The Code of Federal Regulations of the United States of America (Digitized by Google)


Title 14, Section 1211

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

TinselKoala

Gravock your reference is out of date, from 1970. The reference that MarkE cited is the _current law in effect now_ direct from the Government Printing Office's website. The entire Section 1211 was revoked by NASA in 1977 and removed entirely from the CFR in 1991.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-Terrestrial_Exposure_Law
http://www.snopes.com/legal/et.asp

And as is explained, the law never did forbid anyone having contact with ET, especially if they came in their own spacecraft. You simply needed to submit to a quarantine after having such contact.

MarkE

Quote from: gravityblock on July 25, 2015, 08:20:14 PM

The Code of Federal Regulations of the United States of America (Digitized by Google)


Title 14, Section 1211

Gravock
So you think that now revoked regulation when it was in effect supports the conspiracy theory that Ramset alleges?  Do you think that it made contact with extraterrestrials illegal as Ramset alleges?