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Odd and unusual Laws and troubling times for FE research

Started by ramset, July 25, 2015, 07:10:09 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on July 26, 2015, 02:21:00 AM
You have in multiple attempts completely failed to support Ramset's assertions.  You have not shown where in the statute it made contact with aliens illegal.  That's because it never did.  The sections you have quoted do not show anywhere that when the statute was in force that contact with aliens was illegal.  The statute is entirely enclosed by its intent to ensure that anyone who does contact matter from beyond earth does not inadvertently expose the earth to some horrific microbe or virus.

Wrong!  The statue goes beyond what is highlighted in bold above.  The other governmental agencies can quarantine an extra-terrestrially exposed person, except for NASA personnel or NASA property involved in any space mission (paragraph a and c below).  In addition to this, the statute says in paragraph b:

b)  Extraterrestrially exposed means the state or condition of any person property animal or other form of life or matter whatever who or which has: 1) Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope of any celestial body; or 2) Touched directly or been in close proximity to or been exposed to any person, property animal other form of life (my comment: an alien visitor qualifies as "other form of life" who has touched directly and who has come within the atmospheric envelope of another celestial body...end of comment) or matter who or which has been extraterrestrially exposed virtue of subparagraph (1) of this paragraph.




a)  If either the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, or the Department of Agriculture exercises its authority to quarantine an extraterrestrially exposed person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter whatever, NASA will, except as provided in paragraph c of this section, not exercise the authority to quarantine that same person property animal or other form of life or matter whatever.  In such cases NASA will offer to these departments the use of the Lunar Receiving Laboratory Quarantine Station and such other service equipment personnel and facilities as may be necessary to ensure an effective quarantine.
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c)  NASA shall quarantine NASA astronauts and other NASA personnel as determined necessary and all NASA property involved in any space mission.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

MarkE

Quote from: gravityblock on July 26, 2015, 02:56:42 AM
Wrong!  The statue goes beyond what is highlighted in bold above.  The other governmental agencies can quarantine an extra-terrestrially exposed person, except for NASA personnel or NASA property involved in any space mission (paragraph a and c below).  In addition to this, the statute says in paragraph b:

b)  Extraterrestrially exposed means the state or condition of any person property animal or other form of life or matter whatever who or which has: 1) Touched directly or come within the atmospheric envelope of any celestial body; or 2) Touched directly or been in close proximity to or been exposed to any person, property animal other form of life (my comment: an alien visitor qualifies as "other form of life" who has touched directly and who has come within the atmospheric envelope of another celestial body...end of comment) or matter who or which has been extraterrestrially exposed virtue of subparagraph (1) of this paragraph.




a)  If either the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, or the Department of Agriculture exercises its authority to quarantine an extraterrestrially exposed person, property, animal, or other form of life or matter whatever, NASA will, except as provided in paragraph c of this section, not exercise the authority to quarantine that same person property animal or other form of life or matter whatever.  In such cases NASA will offer to these departments the use of the Lunar Receiving Laboratory Quarantine Station and such other service equipment personnel and facilities as may be necessary to ensure an effective quarantine.
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c)  NASA shall quarantine NASA astronauts and other NASA personnel as determined necessary and all NASA property involved in any space mission.

Gravock
Is English not your first language?  When something is prohibited by law, a statute typically reads along the lines:  "It shall be unlawful ... ".  Nowhere in that statute does it state that contact with an extraterrestrial is unlawful. 

gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on July 26, 2015, 03:24:26 AM
Is English not your first language?  When something is prohibited by law, a statute typically reads along the lines:  "It shall be unlawful ... ".  Nowhere in that statute does it state that contact with an extraterrestrial is unlawful.

If a $5,000 fine and a 1 year imprisonment for violation of this statute doesn't mean it's unlawful to break it, then you're beyond reasoning with.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

MarkE

Quote from: gravityblock on July 26, 2015, 03:42:08 AM
If a $5,000 fine and a 1 year imprisonment for violation of this statute doesn't mean it's unlawful to break it, then you're beyond reasoning with.

Gravock
LOL, I guess you can't read, or alternately just want to troll.  Bank robbery has even bigger prison sentences.  Like this statute the laws against bank robbery do not prohibit alien encounters.

gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on July 26, 2015, 03:24:26 AM
Is English not your first language?  When something is prohibited by law, a statute typically reads along the lines:  "It shall be unlawful ... ".  Nowhere in that statute does it state that contact with an extraterrestrial is unlawful.

The legal definition of "shall" means "may" when it appears in statutes according to the supreme court.  In other words, your statement in regards to how a statue typically reads, really says:  "It may be unlawful...".  Something that may be unlawful doesn't state or mean that it is prohibited by law as you wrongly assert.  However, you'll be leaving yourself at risk and at the mercy of a judge if the statue carries fines and imprisonment.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.