A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]

[ramset]

Tinsel
I must say something here ,you state that people get nasty with you because of your comments.
why is it not obvious to you that "Your" comments would be considered by most readers "nasty" or "first blood" in most barrooms across planet earth ?
I always treat a man as if I'm sitting across the table from him and give him the benefit of the doubt ,If I were to say what you just wrote about my guest [basically a lying manipulative conman]we would most likely be finishing the conversation off with somebody getting a knuckle sandwhich instead of a cheeseburger.

I prefer cheeseburgers whenever possible  ...and no I will not bet you "yet" [a cheeseburger bet]

respectfully
Chet K

PS
thx for all the comments and input
on this one.

[TinselKoala]

Tinsel
I must say something here ,you state that people get nasty with you because of your comments.
why is it not obvious to you that "Your" comments would be considered by most readers "nasty" or "first blood" in most barrooms across planet earth ?
I always treat a man as if I'm sitting across the table from him and give him the benefit of the doubt ,If I were to say what you just wrote about my guest [basically a lying manipulative conman]we would most likely be finishing the conversation off with somebody getting a knuckle sandwhich instead of a cheeseburger.

I prefer cheeseburgers whenever possible  ...and no I will not bet you "yet" [a cheeseburger bet]

respectfully
Chet K

PS
thx for all the comments and input
on this one.

Hey, I call them as I see them. The "gentleman" in question is claiming to have the Big Secret and is acting like he actually has (or HAD, now they are "long gone") a working prototype, but he refuses to show it due to some "NDA". Yes, I'm calling him out. He should PROVE HIS CLAIMS, or stfu. I know that what he has described will not work to produce a self running permanent magnet motor, and because I know this, I believe he is another one like we have seen here before, claiming to have what he does not have in order to stir up a following, or hoping that someone else will solve his last little problem and come up with a self runner that he can't make himself. That doesn't fit into the "gentleman" category in my book. But consider just how easy it would be to PROVE ME WRONG. All he has to do is to show a video of a Black Box with a shaft sticking out of it, turning and turning and turning, and allow someone like you to sign an NDA and see the inner guts, and certify to the rest of us that it is indeed working as represented.

Ever play poker? Do you get into a fistfight when someone calls your bluff?  I want to see the cards, that's all.  You can turn the issue around and call me an inconsiderate bastard troll if you want to, but that won't change the FACTS: someone is claiming to have something that would literally change the world and turn Physics on its ear, but isn't willing to provide proof of it -- yet he wants to hold court and discuss it.  And I know why he won't provide proof: he cannot, because he doesn't have any proof. His design is just a concept, and one that has been disproved many times over already.

When someone sits at my table and looks me in the eye and proceeds to lie to me... well, let's just say that he won't be invited back.  Unless we are playing poker and he is bluffing, which is part of that game. Bluffing is NOT part of this Free Energy game, though. Or at least it shouldn't be. If he has a concept that he is trying to test and develop, fine, all I can say about that is that it won't work. If he actually has a selfrunning prototype, that's fine too, if he can demonstrate it. I can, or you can, or Mark Dansie can make him rich, while at the same time starting a whole new branch of physics. If he is only _pretending_ to have a self runner, and is giving us the runaround, that is NOT fine and I'll be as aggressive as I can be in my efforts to expose the false claim.

[shylo]

If he offsets the balance it will stick at the stronger point,unless the inertia is stronger than the unbalance, but I think it will still find balance.
I can make a magnet climb 16 inches but the attraction at that height locks it up solid, it won't drop.
Levers can cause movement ,but getting it to loop  is the hard part.
I hope Mac is right and I'm wrong.
artv

[poynt99]

TK,

I'm not taking sides or inferring anything, but what IF Mack's story is true. What IF he has or had a self runner, but sold out and now can not disclose its inner workings? Is that not a possibility?

It is a bit odd however that he seems to be providing a fair number of clues, and if I was the NDA holder, I might be a little weary right about now.

[Pirate88179]

TK,

I'm not taking sides or inferring anything, but what IF Mack's story is true. What IF he has or had a self runner, but sold out and now can not disclose its inner workings? Is that not a possibility?

It is a bit odd however that he seems to be providing a fair number of clues, and if I was the NDA holder, I might be a little weary right about now.

.99:

I believe that is exactly what TK was talking about here.  Of course, he can speak for himself.  I too have signed NDA's and if I even mentioned ANY part of what was being protected by the NDA on a public forum, all hell would break loose.  Just disclosing the idea itself could indeed be a violation of the NDA depending upon its wording.

Just my 2.365 cents.

Bill