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World's first real Free Energy Flashlight - no shaking - no batteries! No Solar

Started by e2matrix, August 29, 2015, 09:01:12 PM

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txt

Another owner of the ELFE flashlight reported on the FB group today:

Arman Gevorkyan: "My elfe first day began working with 20000 lux and after 4 hours droped to 1000 lux. Next day it began with 15000 lux, however after 10 minutes it dropped the light intensity to 1000 lux. I have turned off it to rest for few days and will see if it recovers energy level."

So far it corresponds pretty closely to the results of Skywatcher in the first two days, although Arman used a longer 1st run. AGDEX claims full power after 3-4 hours of operations each day. No recharging to the full power could be observed in these two cases (Skywatcher and Arman). The light increase in luminosity after the rest is a known phenomena, and does not indicate any recharging. Let's wait  for the next data from testers.

PS: Arman used a lightmeter application in his smartphone, and measured the light from the distance of 15cm.

Another edit: this is the video after Arman's second run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoWrpOmDl5Q

skywatcher

Update:

18.02.16    00:00:00    260       
               
                                     t=30sec    t=60sec    t=90sec
18.02.16    19:00:00    1280         1090         963
19.02.16    19:00:00    1770         1460        1260
20.02.16    19:00:00    1520         1280        1115

The value for 'fully charged' would be > 28000.

Now it's going down...   :(

txt

Many thanks for sharing the data, Skywatcher, despite that the results are certainly disappointing for you. Since, another ELFE flashlight owner confirmed your first test with a luxmeter too, the evidence starts to take a very firm shape, and there is not a lot of chance of some miracle, but let's wait for more data to be absolutely sure.

Anyone who would like to make a joint complaint to help stopping ADGEX in their investment scam, please contact me privately (via the Private Message here), and send me your documentation (invoices, correspondence with ADGEX, payment bills, photos, measured data, .. etc). I am preparing a folder to submit to the Australian investment crime-watch agency, so any evidence would be appreciated.

Before doing so, we have to be absolutely sure, there is no self-recharging. The current data does not let a lot of hope, but we should still respect the principle of the benefit of doubt - we need results from a longer test, and from multiple owners.

skywatcher

Quote from: txt on February 20, 2016, 01:23:08 PM
Many thanks for sharing the data, Skywatcher, despite that the results are certainly disappointing for you. Since, another ELFE flashlight owner confirmed your first test with a luxmeter too, the evidence starts to take a very firm shape, and there is not a lot of chance of some miracle, but let's wait for more data to be absolutely sure.

Anyone who would like to make a joint complaint to help stopping ADGEX in their investment scam, please contact me privately (via the Private Message here), and send me your documentation (invoices, correspondence with ADGEX, payment bills, photos, measured data, .. etc). I am preparing a folder to submit to the Australian investment crime-watch agency, so any evidence would be appreciated.

Before doing so, we have to be absolutely sure, there is no self-recharging. The current data does not let a lot of hope, but we should still respect the principle of the benefit of doubt - we need results from a longer test, and from multiple owners.

You are absolutely right. I will continue my measurements for at least one week, to be absolutely sure.

I also have email contact with Mr. Muzanov. At least they are answering customer complaints, and try to find solutions. I complained about the contact problems caused by loose batteries. The first answer was that i could return it but i found out that sending it back from Germany to Australia or China would cost almost half of the amount i paid for it so this would not be an option for me. Then he offered me to send it to someone in Germany who will travel to their business meeting next week, or i could also fix it myself if  i would know how to do it. So i fixed it myself, which was very easy because on my ELFE the front ring can be unscrewed. I have made a small disc out of crumbled aluminium foil and fixed it with some tape on the negative pole of the battery next to the switch. The tape also isolates it to the tube, so that the switch will not be bridged. I also sent my measurements to Mr. Muzanov together with my doubts if there is any rechargement at all.

Pirate88179

Quote from: skywatcher on February 20, 2016, 02:04:02 PM
You are absolutely right. I will continue my measurements for at least one week, to be absolutely sure.

I also have email contact with Mr. Muzanov. At least they are answering customer complaints, and try to find solutions. I complained about the contact problems caused by loose batteries. The first answer was that i could return it but i found out that sending it back from Germany to Australia or China would cost almost half of the amount i paid for it so this would not be an option for me. Then he offered me to send it to someone in Germany who will travel to their business meeting next week, or i could also fix it myself if  i would know how to do it. So i fixed it myself, which was very easy because on my ELFE the front ring can be unscrewed. I have made a small disc out of crumbled aluminium foil and fixed it with some tape on the negative pole of the battery next to the switch. The tape also isolates it to the tube, so that the switch will not be bridged. I also sent my measurements to Mr. Muzanov together with my doubts if there is any rechargement at all.

Forgetting about the non-recharging issue for the moment...isn't it sad that you have to repair a brand new $100 flashlight with some aluminum foil?  Just about all of the companies I have done business with over the years would have replaced that unit right away, including free shipping for the new unit and the return of the old one.  This right here tells me this is not a company I would ever want to do business with...even IF their lights actually did recharge, which I highly doubt.

Bill

PS  Nice job on the testing.
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen