World's first real Free Energy Flashlight - no shaking - no batteries! No Solar

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Lee:

Have you not followed the testing results on these units?  They do NOT work as advertised and, as TXT said, you can buy a $2 light at any store that performs just as well.  It is a rip-off...scam...fantasy....

Bill

Well, okay, but what I was thinking about was, something like this...


http://www.next.gr/uploads/500-2edd6bea91.png


...with an power input source like this...


http://www.hamuniverse.com/endfedrandlongwire.GIF


...by that I mean an output to a light-producing-type of bulb with a long, one-wire input.   Be aware that the bulb is the equivalent of an LED---ultra bright AND distinctly low power being highly preferable.   As well as outputted power being, say,  .01 to .1 W.
ADDED NOTE:
This source might be fairly typical?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9590
       At 2V and 20mA, the power used is .04W.


       I'll simply say that getting that small a power source into an average sized flashlight the way I just described and that I have experience with---(long wire with diode(s)---is impossible the way I showed it, and I'm the first to say it myself.   If this IS impossible, I'd like to see a representative schematic of the thing to verify this.


       I agree with the nay-sayers.


--Lee

[Nink]

I must be blind, but I saw no proof in that video that charging a battery in any interesting levels in average environment is possible. Did you? As I wrote, at the charging power of 525μW, you'd need two years (in the very best case) to recharge the 3 AA cells.

Txt I must have missed something.  Where on earth did the requirement come from to charge 3 AA cells. The requirement was to light an LED using harvested energy.  @Tinman video proved that was possible. If you want to charge 3 AA batteries, buy a battery charger.

[MileHigh]

Txt I must have missed something.  Where on earth did the requirement come from to charge 3 AA cells. The requirement was to light an LED using harvested energy.  @Tinman video proved that was possible. If you want to charge 3 AA batteries, buy a battery charger.

I believe you did miss something because Brad said this:

That was a 25 farad cap,and a very small antenna. If the antenna was around the outside of the torch body,along with a better circuit,you could charge a 1.5 volt battery within 5 hour's i would think,and get back 1/2 an hour of usable light.

It would all depend on the EM strength in the area you are in.
I would think out in the middle of nowhere,it would not work so well.

There is not a hope in hell that you could get back 1/2 hour of usable light if you lived about five or six kilometers from an AM broadcast station transmitting antenna if the charging power is somewhere in the vicinity of 525 microwatts.  How many people live close to broadcast antennas anyway?

The important lesson here is to do your calculations.

[tinman]

If the system delivers 3mA @ 0.175V, it gives exactly 525μW, just as I wrote. So where is your higher charging power coming from, if not from the system? From another external battery? From the grid? From the Holy Ghost?
I must be blind, but I saw no proof in that video that charging a battery in any interesting levels in average environment is possible. Did you? As I wrote, at the charging power of 525μW, you'd need two years (in the very best case) to recharge the 3 AA cells.

You are blind,as i was not claiming to be able to charge 3 AA batteries with the circuit i showed. My claim was that it is indeed possible to harvest energy from EM wave's,store that collected energy,and light an LED. Harvesting energy from EM wave's has been done for many year's--E.G,the foxhole radio. I also never made the claim that the device in question on this thread was legit,only that it is possible to have a battery/storage device recharge it self by way of available EM radiation in the environment.
You also make the mistake in assuming that the light would be on for 2 1/2 years in order to require that 2 1/2 year recharge cycle at that power draw,if we assume the system is 100% efficient-and where did you come up with 525uW as the charging power from my video?.


Brad

[tinman]

I believe you did miss something because Brad said this:

There is not a hope in hell that you could get back 1/2 hour of usable light if you lived about five or six kilometers from an AM broadcast station transmitting antenna if the charging power is somewhere in the vicinity of 525 microwatts.  How many people live close to broadcast antennas anyway?

Once again-same mistake as txt-->where do you guys get 525uW charging power from ?.
How have you calculated a 525uW charging output from something never made or tested?
I stated-If the antenna was around the outside of the torch body,along with a better circuit,you could charge a 1.5 volt battery within 5 hour's i would think,and get back 1/2 an hour of usable light.
MH,can you please tell us all how you have managed to calculate the charging power of a device that has not yet been made?,or how you have determined what usable light is?.

The important lesson here is to do your calculations.

Indeed.
If i can store a continual energy flow of 1/2 a mW for 5 hour's,then i can drive an LED with 5mW of power for 1/2 an hour from that stored energy-if we assume the system is 100% efficient. At an efficiency of say 90%(very possible),we could deliver 4.5mW for 1/2 an hour to our LED. Are you saying that we would not be able to produce usable light from this ?.

It pays to think before dismissing things that have not even yet come into existence MH.


Brad