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Overunity Machines Forum



Siberian Kolya - Need correct diagram showing magnetic-poles

Started by forumblog, September 07, 2015, 05:56:34 PM

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    d3x0r  ,   I was thinking that the diagram I have posted below,    would succeed in making the  magnetic-coupling  effect  .    Trying with my configuration seems to get on the track to success( even though I don't succeed),   but when I try your configuration I get less near to the effect .
    (  I based my diagram on   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdSSMoUT4g   )

          My diagram seems to be the opposite of your diagram,  but I assume you would be right  .
          (  You based your diagram on   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ     )

   This magnetic-coupling effect  would be an important invention/principle for many researchers in overunity and other fields,  and deserves a wikipedia page ( and another wikipedia page for the topic and the founding work related to it ).

    TinselKoala ,  I only needed the thing I typed above. 
                  But,   I had read one of your posts in this site,  when you were experimenting with the powered designs related to this,    and you typed that when you switched the current from a continuous current  to a pulsed-current,    that the results changed dramatically (  that two components started rotating in the same direction  ) .
                   That made me wonder if the result you got could be attributable to  how a 'transformer'  works,   because I have only just learned that transformers can only work if the current is pulsed .
                    I don't know if I have recalled the details correctly .

                   And, when you described placing the brushes on different parts of the stator-ring,  I think of the  magnetic-field diagram  showing the  neutral-zone( used for magnetic-coupling )  of  a normal  ring-permanent-magnet ,   and then I try and imagine how the magnetic-field  of that  ring-magnet would change with your research ,  even though the stator-ring you use is an electromagnet .
                   
                   One of the scientists who founded this work,  apparently demonstrated a PM device at the public conference,   3 balls were put in a magnetic ring,  and they rotated in different directions,  but that sounds like the only fake story related to this work .
                 
                  yes, this work is amazing,  and the more I look into it the more I'm amazed,  but I'm sticking to the small and simple stuff 

d3x0r


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d3x0r ,  I have drawn the diagram as you said,   it is below  .
            I assume that you are right,  because that looks like what the  magnetic-pole orientations would be for   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ   ,  but,    have you actually made it work using your own magnets ?

             (   Also below, is the only magnetic-pole orientations that I seem to have more luck with,  even though I don't succeed  )

d3x0r

Quote from: forumblog on September 08, 2015, 11:07:21 PM
d3x0r ,  I have drawn the diagram as you said,   it is below  .
            I assume that you are right,  because that looks like what the  magnetic-pole orientations would be for   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiMQPeYJrQ   ,  but,    have you actually made it work using your own magnets ?

             (   Also below, is the only magnetic-pole orientations that I seem to have more luck with,  even though I don't succeed  )


well other than I noticed when he attached the magnet sideways it kinda flipped (but I was expecting that) so I know the poles are n/s veritcally...


I did try to grab a few magnets and try some things; but the ones I have are too large... so I can't get them on a nut effecitvely.  and I don't have a convenient car for them...


The ones I have have too much lift... so would probably be better if the bottom one was aligned the opposite way as the car's magnet.. so that's the attracting one to pull it down; although it would probably do a wheely and still attached to the ones I have.
(mine are probably twice as large in all dimensions effecitvely 8x the size)


so like the top drawing on your last post I would think would work well.

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Here is the reason that I am not totally sure if you are correct.

Below, is a diagram of how a  ring-magnet  attracts/repels a   bar-magnet( cylinder-magnet )  which is in a  transparent-plastic-tube  which runs through the  hole of the  ring-magnet .

The  bar-magnet( cylinder-magnet )  in the  transparent-plastic-tube,  remains at a specific-distance from the   ring-magnet (  same effect as the toy-car ).

Look at the direction of the magnetic-poles  of those magnets ,  they are almost the same as my diagram for the  toy-car,  the only difference is that in the diagram below the  S pole of the bar-magnet  is  facing the  N pole of the  ring-magnet .