Bedini Energizer Coil Question

[earthbound0729]

Hello All,
Earthbound here.
I am new to this forum but have been reading a lot of data on the Bedini Energizer and the 8 filar coil arrangement, plus seeing tons of videos. I am in the process of gathering materials to build my coils.
My question is this. In building my other coils (say 5 others) that encircle the wheel rotor, are other trigger coils really needed in each one, or can these coils be wound strictly with the mains only to collect the radiant energy from the field collapse?
My thought is the one trigger coil would be plenty to keep the wheel spinning through the pole reversals that are taking place as each magnet passes by it. I realize that each coil has a ferrous core and the magnets will be attracted to them to some degree, but my supposition is the single coil will be able to over come that attraction, as wound per the Bedini instructions.
Any insight would be appreciated for this newbie.

TY, earthbound

[minoly]

Hello All,
Earthbound here.
I am new to this forum but have been reading a lot of data on the Bedini Energizer and the 8 filar coil arrangement, plus seeing tons of videos. I am in the process of gathering materials to build my coils.
My question is this. In building my other coils (say 5 others) that encircle the wheel rotor, are other trigger coils really needed in each one, or can these coils be wound strictly with the mains only to collect the radiant energy from the field collapse?
My thought is the one trigger coil would be plenty to keep the wheel spinning through the pole reversals that are taking place as each magnet passes by it. I realize that each coil has a ferrous core and the magnets will be attracted to them to some degree, but my supposition is the single coil will be able to over come that attraction, as wound per the Bedini instructions.
Any insight would be appreciated for this newbie.

TY, earthbound

Simple answer is, you only need one trigger winding. This one trigger winding can trigger all the transistors at once. Try to put your energy collecting/rectifying diode right on the wire of the coil and then a big low impedance wire/cable to the charge batteries.
Cheers, Patrick

[earthbound0729]

Hello Patrick and thank you for this reply.

So for a point of clarification:
1. In adding the other slave coils for collecting purposes only, and being sure they are absolutely lined up angularly to coincide with the magnets all hitting the same point of alignment with each core as they pass-do I actually need any outside supplied voltage for these new slave coils? In the photo below I do see that the drive battery will energize these slave coils as depicted, but if I am only collecting collapsing field energy what is the point of that constant supplied energy?

This is a picture I have seen that seems to at least clarify the picture somewhat.
https://visionblue.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/schaltkreis-multi-coil.jpg

This picture above does not show an inline capacitor for temporary storage nor any way to prevent the battery from leaking energy back to the slave coil, at least as far as I can see. Neither can I discern the protective Neon lamps in this circuit.
Thanks for aiding the noob here.

earthbound.

[minoly]

Hello Patrick and thank you for this reply.

So for a point of clarification:
1. In adding the other slave coils for collecting purposes only, and being sure they are absolutely lined up angularly to coincide with the magnets all hitting the same point of alignment with each core as they pass-do I actually need any outside supplied voltage for these new slave coils? In the photo below I do see that the drive battery will energize these slave coils as depicted, but if I am only collecting collapsing field energy what is the point of that constant supplied energy?

This is a picture I have seen that seems to at least clarify the picture somewhat.
https://visionblue.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/schaltkreis-multi-coil.jpg

This picture above does not show an inline capacitor for temporary storage nor any way to prevent the battery from leaking energy back to the slave coil, at least as far as I can see. Neither can I discern the protective Neon lamps in this circuit.
Thanks for aiding the noob here.

earthbound.

hey there earthbound,
that picture does show the energy going to the charge battery all the way on the right side. the battery on the left is the "run/primary" battery that the energizer will run off of. Also, look at the trigger coil and how it is connected to each of the slave coils via a resistor this is why you only need one trigger wire/coil.
hope this helps...

[earthbound0729]

Thank you Patrick for pointing out the clarification for me.
earthbound