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Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback (MODERATED)

Started by gotoluc, November 10, 2015, 07:11:57 PM

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tinman

Quote from: citfta on December 20, 2015, 06:46:51 AM
Hi Brad,

What you are saying is true.  However, that is not all there is to it.  Even when lightly spooled up the turbo helps the engine to burn the fuel more efficiently.  It is well documented by Mercedes Benz and verified by Mercedes owners that the 5 cylinder diesel engine sold from the late 1970s until the mid 1980s got better overall fuel economy with the turbo.  The non-turbo engine cars got on average 27-28 mpg on the open road and the turbo versions got 30-31 mpg on the open road.  I probably could find a better analogy but I'll stand with my assertion that a turbo does improve efficiency.

Respectfully,
Carroll

If the compression ratio is raised in an engine,that will also improve efficiency,but you loose bottom end torque. Dont forget that diesel contains far more energy per ltr than petroleum ,and so MPG dont really tell the story of efficiency. There are many ways to increase the actual efficiency of an ICE,and a turbo is one that sits on the bottom of the list. But rather than clog up Lucs thread with this,i just put my point forward as you have,and will leave it at that.

During the week, i will be putting together a universal motor where one of the stator electromagnets can be pulled out,and a permanent magnet can take it's place.

Brad

citfta

Hi Brad,

Will you be starting another thread about the universal motor?  I have just picked up a couple of small universal motors and have been playing around with just putting some ceramic magnets on the outside of the  laminations and can see that just doing that makes a difference.  Looking forward to what you are doing.

Carroll

tinman

Quote from: citfta on December 20, 2015, 07:54:29 AM
Hi Brad,

Will you be starting another thread about the universal motor?  I have just picked up a couple of small universal motors and have been playing around with just putting some ceramic magnets on the outside of the  laminations and can see that just doing that makes a difference.  Looking forward to what you are doing.

Carroll

No-no new thread. I will just carry on on the thread i already have,as it is related to the topic at hand.

Brad

digitalindustry

Quote from: tinman on December 20, 2015, 02:19:48 AM
This whole thing could be put to bed very easily Luc. All the EE guys have to do is tell me how to increase the P/in to P/out efficiency of my setup without the external alternating magnetic fields. It would then be game,set ,and match for them. But that will not happen. What will happen is they will want you to build a brand new coil,that in no way resembles the DUTs coil. And then who is to say that the same thing would not apply to that coil?.

We are being told this-
1-the P/in is providing the energy to spin the rotor
2-the rotor is inducing a CEMF in the coil
3-This CEMF is what is reducing the P/in-and increasing the overall P/in to P/out efficiency of the coil.
4- But the magnets are doing no useful work-  ???

It is good to see that the bench work being done here is dismissing all there claim's so far against what we see.


Brad

they will simply never say you are correct because they want to draw out every point so that you keep spending time on videos running over tiny points and less time on  innovation, trusting that if you self loop YT will pull the video, or it will be trolled as 'fake'

everyone can see what is obvious but every time you will be asked to do more videos, how many videos have these guys posted showing these concepts?

ha ha it's like they are sitting back and demanding you make videos for them, the 'EEE'  = 'EE Elite'

ha ha

: D

on a serious note

i notice that creeping in here more and more is the geometry of the systems. with woopy video etc.
it's always good to take on new info by everyone but if it takes away your time spent innovating where you could test new 'out of the box' ideas is that time well spent?

gotoluc

As promised, here is the new test device and video.

I had to redo the pictures of the scope shots I took during the video since the scope data didn't display for some reason.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7yf_J3dNNM

Coil Data:

Drive Coil is 0.3 Ohm and 2.39mH
Assist Coil is 8 Ohm and 105mH

Flyback Diode:

2x RHRG5060 Parellel give a 0.34 Conducting Forward Voltage

Luc