A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

[MileHigh]

Trying deflection will get you nowhere Jbignes5.

[Nink]

Interesting thanks OK doing math again.

He goes from 300 joules to 10.8 joules in 240 seconds. His average joules (lets give him straight line) is 82.3
Li-Ion sustains 160 joules for 3600 seconds.
82.3*240= 19752 joules per hour
160 * 3600 = 576000 Joules / hour
576000/19752=29 * times more power

Sorry I underestimated he actually needs 29 * 26 cells = 754 cells to 26 Li-Ion Cells.

Spread sheet is here.  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fh_XHSwy2w3UJ6WegG9vwrQbibTzgAjStSeYzTtlf5k/edit#gid=0

[jbignes5]

It's not a deflection, the two are vastly different and comparing them isn't an easy thing. Did you read the link or not MH? My guess is not because if you did you would see the difference. Plus I think this version of his device is much different but not until someone makes a pound for pound device meaning equal material weight of ACTIVE components then any comparison is rather hard to do. That I will admit because given his comparison it would be like the comparison of Li-ion battery to a Li-ion capacitor which both do exist and the cap is far superior to the battery. Especially for vehicles from speed of charging ,charging cycles and toughness and environmental aspects as well as cost to make.


So kudos to you for putting that down and shaming him into capitulating to you and your cronies. Good job...


Again this is a hybrid capacitor and not a battery like you think it is.

[MileHigh]

It's not a deflection, the two are vastly different and comparing them isn't an easy thing. Did you read the link or not MH? My guess is not because if you did you would see the difference. Plus I think this version of his device is much different but not until someone makes a pound for pound device meaning equal material weight of ACTIVE components then any comparison is rather hard to do. That I will admit because given his comparison it would be like the comparison of Li-ion battery to a Li-ion capacitor which both do exist and the cap is far superior to the battery. Especially for vehicles from speed of charging ,charging cycles and toughness and environmental aspects as well as cost to make.


So kudos to you for putting that down and shaming him into capitulating to you and your cronies. Good job...


Again this is a hybrid capacitor and not a battery like you think it is.

It doesn't matter what the device is, it can be treated like a black box.  You track three variables associated with the black box, voltage, current, and time.   RMS only tracked current and time.  That's the huge problem, I will not repeat it again.  If you don't acknowledge this then there is no hope for you.

[Nink]

Again this is a hybrid capacitor and not a battery like you think it is.

He calls it a B EESD The B standard for battery. The other device is a C EESD the C stands for Capacitor.   RMS was the one comparing it with a battery.