A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

[Jimboot]

You are still playing straw man.  I don't tear people down and assassinate people's characters, stop saying it.  However, sometimes saying something in strong terms is a proportional response to the situation.  If your daughter was brought to the emergency and she needed blood and the doctor on staff wasn't aware that there are different blood types you would be pretty freaked out, aghast, and you would not want that "doctor" going anywhere near your daughter, right?  You might want to sue the hospital.  Well, if you are in the business of making battery cells and you are a director of a company, presumably in a technological capacity, that pitches new higher-energy-density battery cells and you completely fail to demonstrate competence in measuring the energy in your own cells, that's a pretty damn serious issue, don't you think?  The data as incorrectly presented  might be exaggerating the energy density by weight by 5X, 8X, or even higher.  That's a pretty serious problem, don't you think?

The numbers are NOT amazing, why are you saying that?  I just posted that the data as presented may show that he has no advantage over lithium-ion cells by wright, none.

Here is what Simon Derricutt stated about the issue on Revolution-Green:

Hey Jim, did you notice that for three or four postings that Atommix93 is attacking me and calling me all sorts of nasty names?  How come you have nothing to say about that?

MileHigh

You get what you give. You are quite simply a coward. Abusing ppl behind anonymity. i have no time for cowards so you are now on my ignore list.

[MileHigh]

You get what you give. You are quite simply a coward. Abusing ppl behind anonymity. i have no time for cowards so you are now on my ignore list.

The old "anonymous" cliche again.  I did not abuse anybody, you are full of crap.  You're on my spineless list as someone afraid to state the truth when it's right in front of their face.

[tinman]

I would say to you, "so now nothing" until RMS can present credible data.  All bets are off.

All of you guys need to understand the scientific method and how the burden is on your shoulders to get it right.

I watched one of RMS's capacitor clips and he made a big claim about the size of the capacitor.  I asked him for measurements to back up his claims and he balked and got very testy.

Then I think you rode off of one of his clips and claimed that you made a 2600 farad capacitor.  But you didn't make measurements either.  I made a really quick and dirty estimate of the average charging power required based on your claim of 2600 farads and the amount of time it took you to charge the capacitor, which was something like a few minutes.   I calculated that the average charging power would have to be 20 watts.

Now think about that.  You have a super cap.  If the cap voltage is 0.2 volts you have to be pumping in 100 amps to be putting 20 watts of power into the cap.  If the cap voltage is 0.5 volts then you have to be pumping in 40 amps.  In the clip, if I recall correctly, you do charge the capacitor, and there no sense that the drain on the power supply is anything like that.

Just by eyeballing what you did in your clip, and making the roughest dirtiest paper napkin calculations, my conclusion was your claimed 2600 farads farads for the capacitor you made yourself is way way off.  Plus I saw no measurements and if you were hitching a ride on RMS's coattails to make an inference about the value of your own capacitor, then it's a no-go as far as I am concerned.

One day, you should make a serious measurement on your claimed 2600 farad capacitor.  You might be in for a surprise.  The whole mindset has to be trained to make serious measurements when you make your own components.  It's simply the right way to do things.  Don't hitch on anybody else's coattails because you believe your device is similar to theirs, or something like that.  Always make proper measurements yourself.

MileHigh

You are going on the assumption that my video was to show that 2600 farad capacity-which it was not. I only partly charged that capacitor purely for the video demonstration. the video demonstration was just that-not a capacity test. Tests were carried out against a 100 farad capacitor-in the same way i did with RMS's EESD. As the home made capacitor would run a known set load for a time period that was 26 times longer than that of the 100 farad super capacitor at the same voltage and current output ,then i concluded that it had 26 times the capacity of that of the 100 farad super cap. Rough and dirty i know,but close non the less.

[tinman]

The old "anonymous" cliche again.  I did not abuse anybody, you are full of crap.

Thats not very nice MH 
Jimboot is one of the good guys.

Be nice-->everyone has a right to voice there opinion.
I have not seen him challenge your measurement errors you picked on RMS's video.

You're on my spineless list as someone afraid to state the truth when it's right in front of their face.

Are you saying-even though we dont disagree with you,we will be on your spineless list if we dont actually say we agree with you?.

Are you having a bad day MH?.
Most of us here are not your enemy MH.

[MileHigh]

Thats not very nice MH 
Jimboot is one of the good guys.

Be nice-->everyone has a right to voice there opinion.
I have not seen him challenge your measurement errors you picked on RMS's video.

Are you saying-even though we dont disagree with you,we will be on your spineless list if we dont actually say we agree with you?.

Are you having a bad day MH?.
Most of us here are not your enemy MH.

Jim simply won't sate that what RMS did is wrong and there is a history in the thread that anybody can read.  He tried to impugn my character by defending the indefensible:

Build something better MH. Oh that's right you don't build, you tear down. I can't comment on your calculations, what I would say is that I'd trust a man who gives freely and generously of his time rather than one who seemingly spend all his time criticising others work and does none himself.

It's a bad day when people are "afraid" to say things and act like zombie pod people.  He can damn well comment on my calculations, he is simply too scared to do that.

When Jim first engaged with me several months ago he tried to play the jackass and mock me and insult me because, heaven forbid, I called things as I saw them.  He was trying to play the ass to "impress" the masses.  I challenged him on that and he went into a humongous spin zone to try and make himself look good and deny his BS.

That's just the way it is.  Robert Murry Smith should take down his nonsensical clip, issue an apology, and try again.  How can he possibly do what he did considering the position he is in?  I don't have to "defend" that statement.

MileHigh