A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

[memoryman]

MH, the video is sloppy work in several ways.

I just posted this "There are two huge flaws in the way that you interpret your calculations; one is in the weighing of the active materials, the other one is in the energy measurement method of your cap." as a comment to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-aOPQ9_MyM.

[MileHigh]

I did show the proof by showing you that article that states that cap has the same density as a battery. Why does Mr. Smith have to do that when it is already known. Don't you think after 9 years it would have advanced beyond that density? Plus Mr. Smith is using another technique I believe that does in fact use a better storage medium but then again you ignore the proof and ask for me to prove it. You don't or won't step outside of your box and learn and thats why you have zero credibility with me and others. In fact your credibility went out the door a very long time ago. After a few thousand more posts and nothing has changed. You are the Elephant unwilling to step beyond your "Facts". Anyone can see this but you.

For RMS we are discussing batteries, not capacitors.  Sorry, but a ridiculous attempt at a double bait-and-switch is a fail.  It's laughable when you try in vain to ignore the failure on RMS's part to make an energy measurement on a forum dedicated to energy research and instead point to an unrelated link.  Your argument has zero credibility.

[MileHigh]

MH, the video is sloppy work in several ways.

I just posted this "There are two huge flaws in the way that you interpret your calculations; one is in the weighing of the active materials, the other one is in the energy measurement method of your cap." as a comment to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-aOPQ9_MyM.

Thanks Bill.  Your comment is short and to the point and much appreciated.  Will it remain public or not I wonder.

[jbignes5]

For RMS we are discussing batteries, not capacitors.  Sorry, but a ridiculous attempt at a double bait-and-switch is a fail.  It's laughable when you try in vain to ignore the failure on RMS's part to make an energy measurement on a forum dedicated to energy research and instead point to an unrelated link.  Your argument has zero credibility.

It doesn't matter because he said it was a hybrid clearly in the video he also said it wasn't a strictly scientific explanation and it was an approximate with errors in both ways that should equal. It is a capacitor with battery like methods applied ie an electrolyte was used to make it more like the battery he was comparing to so again your attempt to mislead everyone is a known factor. Again you have misled yourself into think this is something it is not period.
Now lets address his deleting of your posts. Since he clearly said it wasn't a scientific analysis of the unit per say he deleted the posts that were trying to make it so and steer people away from his ultimate goal of discovery and experimentation for others to get involved with. You on the other hand are trying to make this into something it is not.
If you want to find out for yourself then simply do the experiment and then show it. show how it is wrong then prove it otherwise you are spouting your "Facts" and not what is going on.


Again this is a hybrid capacitor/battery which he clearly states and one does relate to the other. All batteries have capacitance especially the lithium ion type. So arguing that point is again misleading people...

"It's laughable when you try in vain to ignore the failure on RMS's part to make an energy measurement on a forum dedicated to energy research and instead point to an unrelated link.  Your argument has zero credibility."

His measurement clearly shows massive differences using additional nano coatings instead of the brute force method li-ion uses. Also if you haven't seen Mr. Smith isn't here, now I wonder why? Because maybe with people like you, who like to put words in others mouths and the bad behavior you exhibit by demanding that he does what you should be doing to prove him wrong. He has a product you don't. I assure you I know what they two coatings are and if you took the time to research his other videos you would know what it was too. But then again you just don't believe anything outside of your box. We know MH how you work.

My only attempt was to teach you that the construction differences between the battery and capacitor was moot knowing the nano material changes the medium to which energy is stored. Since you have written this off then leave him alone and stop trying to discredit his valid work.

[MileHigh]

I am not attempting to mislead anyone so stop saying that.  You claiming that I am attempting to mislead is in effect you attempting to mislead.

The RMS clip is a clip where he makes an energy measurement on his device.  His energy measurement is a gross exaggeration of the actual amount of energy in his device.  Therefore his claims of energy density by weight are a gross exaggeration.

All batteries have capacitance especially the lithium ion type.

The quote above illustrates your very limited understanding of electronics.  I have had one or two technical conversations with you in the past where the same thing was apparent.

However, you should be able to understand how the energy measurement in the RMS clip is grossly exaggerated and it is all explained earlier in this thread.  That is the one and only issue being discussed.

There are many avenues of research going on for batteries and supercapacitors but that is not what this thread is about.

RMS deleting my posts instead of doing the right thing and redoing his clip is not confidence inspiring at all.  He didn't even have to redo the test itself, all of the data is right there on the two multimeters.