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Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

Started by Just..Sayin.., January 16, 2016, 01:09:01 PM

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MileHigh

Quote from: Just..Sayin.. on January 18, 2016, 04:51:21 PM
I never bothered answering your question because of your attitude...

That's a lame excuse.  It's wasn't my "attitude," it was because you wanted to ignore facts and statements in favour of your fantasy.  You didn't want to entertain other views that made perfect sense and ignoring things is part and parcel of that.

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on January 18, 2016, 05:16:52 PM
Formatting problems - I will highlight Tinman's text in bold.

Take a look again, this stuff is all just basic nuts and bolts.
OK,so from you !basic! nuts and bolts stuff,explain in detail as to what the magnetic force is.





QuoteA lot of people are tired of hearing that.  It's a total cop out to ask that question in an accusatory manner when you can't answer it yourself.

A lot of people are also tired of hearing how !some! seem to think they have it all worked out,and yet cannot describe !at all! what the magnetic force is. It is not a cop out-it is a reality. I have never claimed to be able to answer as to what the magnetic force is,i have only presented a theory-nothing more. The thing is,you (nor anyone else)can say my theory is wrong,as you do not know what is right.

QuoteYou can look up the definitions on Google if you want to.  How about you write a 1000-word essay on what water tastes like?

Well,as you are trying to be a smart ass here,you should know that water taste different to each person,as dose all foods and liquids.


QuoteThat fist clip I linked to says that you can calculate the magnetic field around a moving charge everywhere in the Universe.  What more do you want?

To explain as to how-->Quote Vortex1: what sustains the electron orbital motion to produce a continuous electric current?
I have used Vortex's word's,as i have a feeling that my own words would not meet your needs.
But it takes work to create and maintain a magnetic field. So how is this continual work being done?-where is this endless supply of energy coming from?.

QuoteThat is just describing Nature - it's what's in the deck of cards that was dealt to us that describes the Universe that we are living in.  You should be impressed that we have figured it out.  It's just real reality.

Lol. Man has figured nothing out in regards to magnetic and gravitational fields. They do not know what either is,only the effects they produce.

QuoteElectrons move in circles" is a perfectly reasonable simplification for purposes of this discussion.

No-it is a large misconception. It is just as bad as saying the earth orbit's the sun. It seems that when i try and describe something,you insist that correct and exact descriptions must be provided,and yet you are able to use !simplifications! when you see fit.

QuoteWhat's ass about is this phrase, "where as the moving electron is due to a magnetic field that changes with time."  It doesn't really make any sense and I am not going to "fill in the blanks" to make it make sense.  Think about what you are going to write and review your own prose before you commit to it and post it.

And bingo-->please be more accurate lol.

QuoteMagnets are magnets because trillions of spinning electrons make little micro magnets.  We know what the field produced by every micro magnet is everywhere in the Universe. The majority of the electrons that count are spinning in the same direction.  So trillions of tiny micro magnets make a macro magnet.   That's the way it is and if you refuse to believe this and have some unexplained and undefined explanation unique unto you then so be it.

So where dose the energy come from to maintain this endless spinning that gives rise to the magnetic field?.
How dose something that spins in a !!circle! produce a unidirectional force,or flow?.

QuoteI find it quite interesting that you don't believe that we went to the moon.

So do what we insist on here ,when extraordinary claims are made. Provide a third party verification that we went to the moon. The fact is,you cannot,as the only evidence we have that we went to the moon,is that provided by the very people that produced the hoax in the first place-->NASA.

Here are some verification's that we did not,and cannot yet go to the moon-by people that work for those that produced the hoax in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51DED8dcNkA

QuoteThe moon shot was just another exercise in nuts and bolts.  I kind of understand now how you can look at a simple pulse motor that you just put together by happenstance and actually believe that you are observing something that "science can't explain."  It's more like you can't explain it and then you take this leap of logic and assume that you are in some kind of uncharted electronics territory.

You walk around with blinders on MH-as do some others.
You cannot see bullshit when it is place right before you. You blindly believe what you seen on TV,or what others tell you,in stead of using common sense-->but only when you choose to do so-->only when the need to believe is greater than the need to understand the truth.

Brad.

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on January 18, 2016, 05:30:01 PM
That's a lame excuse.  It's wasn't my "attitude," it was because you wanted to ignore facts and statements in favour of your fantasy.  You didn't want to entertain other views that made perfect sense and ignoring things is part and parcel of that.

Just like the Apollo mission's-hey MH?.

avalon

Quote from: gyulasun on January 18, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
Hi A Valon,

Here are the specs for the 900 MHz and 2.4 GHz bands,  in page 2:

http://www.gegridsolutions.com/products/brochures/SmartMetering/I210-SSN-MicroAP_GEA-12873.pdf

Probably the indicated power output levels are at the the transmitters output and does not include possible antenna gain (this is a guess from me).

Gyula

Thank you very much. Very useful and, I might add, surprising. 1W in 900Mhz band!? That's a lot of transmitting power.

~A

MileHigh

QuoteTo explain as to how-->Quote Vortex1: what sustains the electron orbital motion to produce a continuous electric current?
I have used Vortex's word's,as i have a feeling that my own words would not meet your needs.
But it takes work to create and maintain a magnetic field. So how is this continual work being done?-where is this endless supply of energy coming from?.

I don't even pretend to be an atomic physicist.  But there are some basic common sense things that probably apply.

The Earth is in orbit around the Sun at a certain radial distance and that represents an "energy state."  Look up the concept if you have to.  An electron is in orbit around the nucleus and that represents an energy state.  Both energy states are constant.  There is no friction in both cases.  So there is no "continuous work" taking place at all.

It does not take work to maintain a magnetic field at all.  You should realize this.  It only takes work to create the magnetic field.

Where does the work come from?  I can just speculate:  There is attraction between a nucleus and an electron.  If an electron falls into a nucleus from a distance it increases in energy -> that energy becomes the energy state of the electron in orbit.

I am guessing that you are questioning atomic physics and particle physics without knowing anything about the subject matter.  I know a small amount and am trying to create a reasonable picture.

There is no "endless supply of energy."  For that for sure you are dead wrong.  I think you are arguing from near total ignorance with respect to this subject matter.

As far as the moon trip goes, any mathematician can go up to a blackboard and do the calculations that prove that a big tin can full of rocket fuel can get into orbit and then push a smaller tin can on a trajectory to the moon.  Then an even smaller tin can can land on the moon, and then an even smaller tin can can come back to the Earth.  It is entirely physically possible and can be proven on a blackboard in 15 minutes.  I have read stuff debunking the Van Allen belt radiation claims.  Just like the claims that the shadows in the pictures are all wrong are ridiculous.