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Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

Started by Just..Sayin.., January 16, 2016, 01:09:01 PM

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Just..Sayin..

Quote from: avalon on January 16, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
I remain skeptical too.  I have already mentioned that I would not release anything until I am 100% sure of where the energy is coming from. So far, I cannot answer that question.
BTW, similar to my dumb Kill-A-Watt device, my smart PG&E house meter does not register anything either when I connect the load through the device.
Until I can answer the question above with a reasonable degree of certainty I will simply assume that I've created a cheating device. In that case no details will ever be released.

~A

The energy is coming from the same place it does in conventional generators. Out of a higher dimensional field that is unseen to the 3 dimensional senses. This is why Tesla could not explain where it comes from either. Nor will you.

A generator's output, the induced magnet current and voltage, comes from the supplied magnetic field, be it permanent or electromagnetic. It does not come from the torque that is applied to the shaft. The force that is supplied to turn the dhaft under load is used to fight the resistance of the between the supplied field and the induced field. Back EMF. The supplied field never depletes itself, it is place where the energy comes from. Figure out the true source or origin of a magnetic field, and you will then know where the energy is coming from.

Who cares where it comes from, take a page out of Tesla's book, be happy it's there. Your watt meter and your smart meter are proving that you have set up resonance in your capacitor assisted transformer and are obtaining a lenz free output.

RomanEmpire


MileHigh

Quote from: Just..Sayin.. on January 17, 2016, 08:49:32 AM
The energy is coming from the same place it does in conventional generators. Out of a higher dimensional field that is unseen to the 3 dimensional senses. This is why Tesla could not explain where it comes from either. Nor will you.

A generator's output, the induced magnet current and voltage, comes from the supplied magnetic field, be it permanent or electromagnetic. It does not come from the torque that is applied to the shaft. The force that is supplied to turn the dhaft under load is used to fight the resistance of the between the supplied field and the induced field. Back EMF. The supplied field never depletes itself, it is place where the energy comes from. Figure out the true source or origin of a magnetic field, and you will then know where the energy is coming from.

Who cares where it comes from, take a page out of Tesla's book, be happy it's there. Your watt meter and your smart meter are proving that you have set up resonance in your capacitor assisted transformer and are obtaining a lenz free output.

Energy can be transformed from one form to another.  I will assume that you have seen that in various threads and agreed with it.  So you can't just cherry pick when you want to accept that or not accept that.  Mechanical power applied to a generator results in electrical power out.  That's the source of the electrical power, not a "higher dimensional field that is unseen to the 3 dimensional senses."  It's a nice sounding fantasy but it's not true.

Likewise resonance is not a source of free energy.  Resonance is just a method of storing energy that comes from somewhere else.  The source of a magnetic field is an electron in motion.  That's what's in the deck of cards that Nature has dealt to us, so you may as well run with it and try to use that to your advantage.

Just..Sayin..

It is not a matter of cherry picking anything, I have put forth a legitmate observation of the forces at play in a generator. The torque applied to shaft is consumed in the struggle between the supplied field and the induced field. The source of the current and voltage coming out of the generator is the supplied field. It is not coming from the force that is required to turn the shaft. Yes the input is in exact proportion to the output when the generator is loaded, but there are two entirely different energy interactions in play. The torque applied to the shaft, is not itself transformed into output, that force is used up in the process, the true transformation of energy is between the supplied field and the induced field. The input torque itself is not transformed into the output in a literal sense, it is used up in the process.

The supplied field is providing the output, and it never runs out, it is self replenishing. That is truly where the energy is coming from.

MileHigh

Quote from: Just..Sayin.. on January 17, 2016, 10:21:53 AM
I disagree with you...

Do you have any background in electronics?  Or have you just been doing a lot of reading?

What I suggest that you do is go on a bench and make a test setup for a transformer.  Measure the input and output with different source and load impedances.  Measure the inductance of the transformer from the primary side and from the secondary side.  Determine when the core gets saturated from the primary side and from the secondary side.  Measure the phase and frequency response of the transformer for different load impedances.  Measure the amount of energy that can be stored in the core from the primary side and from the secondary side.  Put a resistive load, then an inductive load, and then a capacitive load on the secondary, and see how that load is reflected back to the primary.  Examine the way the transformer operates in pulse circuits, and also in AC circuits.

If you do those bench tests then you will realize what a transformer really is.  In many ways a transformer is just an electrical equivalent to a set of meshed gears.  Does that statement make any sense to you?  When you look at a simple transmission consisting of a gear with 100 teeth meshed with a smaller gear of 50 teeth, do you get any sense that you can get any free mechanical energy from a set of meshed gears?

It's all fine and dandy to fantasize about things.  However, you are fantasizing about things that are tangible and real.  I did all the tests I mentioned above a long time ago.  I think that's something that you need to do to get a tangible feeling and understanding of what an electrical transformer really is before you proclaim that one can be used as a magical source of free energy.