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Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!

Started by Just..Sayin.., January 16, 2016, 01:09:01 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: MileHigh on January 17, 2016, 06:55:03 PM
This clip is a good starting point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waTF7kjmmt8

But it still doesnt explain 'why' the polarity of the field changes with electron direction of motion.  In a perm magnet the electrons are circling the atoms and that is the only electron motion happening in the magnet, say it is in the middle of nowhere without outer influence of other fields electrical or magnetic.

So is there a video that shows that the movement of electrons in a perm magnet are what produces the magnets polarized total field? TK seems to say yes. That is what I would be interested in seeing. ;D

Mags

avalon

Mystery solved (sort of...)

OK, here is the result of my playing with the device and the house meter.
My house  is connected to the utility through a digital smart meter. My meter looks like the picture attached to this post except that it is made by Landis & Gyr.

I do not know how old the meter is (it looks relatively new) but should've worked just fine, all considering. However, it has the same design fault as my dumb Kill-A-Watt device. Under certain conditions it does not work properly.
Yes, there is still power consumption but the meter doesn't want to know about it.

My next (and rather obvious move) was to go to a friend's house where the meter is still an old winding type. No pleasant surprises there. It shows some power consumption the moment my device is plugged in.
We also tried a different digital meter (GE, bi-directional) which worked just fine and showed true consumption.

After some digging I found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQdeLQqaStA which shows the tear down of a smart meter. After watching the video and some additional experimenting I think I know the answer.

So, is my device consuming power? Sadly, yes. It does.
The smart meter doesn't register the consumption because it senses the current on the hot sides only. My device, however, once tuned to the resonance frequency of the transformer, draws the power on the ground side hence bypassing the sensor.
That bypassing is possible due to yet another side effect which I am not going to discuss in details as it will lead to replications of this cheating device.

(If you are unfamiliar with the US power distribution, 2 hot sides (220V AC 60HZ)are coming down from the pole. Next the hot sides are distributed evenly to level-out the load bringing 120V AC to end consumer.)
I am not going into the details of the ferroresonance phenomenon here, as I am sure you've tried  it. If not, here is a good read:

http://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/4/9/1301/pdf
http://www.powerqualityworld.com/2011/04/constant-voltage-ferroresonant.html

Next obvious step was to try and change the resonant frequency and see what happens. Sure enough getting away from the critical point brought back proper meter functioning. Kill-A-Watt, however, remained dumb no matter what I tried.
BTW, my playing with resonant frequencies resulted to two additional events: 1/ I burnt down the transformer by accidentally disconnecting one of the secondaries 2/ I had to make another transformer in order to continue my experiments.

So, sleep well tonight. OU is still not here.

~A

tinman

Quote from: Magluvin on January 17, 2016, 07:07:37 PM
But it still doesnt explain 'why' the polarity of the field changes with electron direction of motion.  In a perm magnet the electrons are circling the atoms and that is the only electron motion happening in the magnet, say it is in the middle of nowhere without outer influence of other fields electrical or magnetic.

So is there a video that shows that the movement of electrons in a perm magnet are what produces the magnets polarized total field? TK seems to say yes. That is what I would be interested in seeing. ;D

Mags

There will be no video explaining any electron motion being the cause or giving rise to a permanent magnets magnetic field, or an associated electric field due to the motion of those electrons.

ARMCORTEX

I feel as if the clouds are coming back, another vast empty dead zone untill the new hope comes.

Thanks for your honesty and dedication.

Still a useful device, maybe you can threaten to release this product and get a few bills out of it.


MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on January 17, 2016, 09:18:49 PM
There will be no video explaining any electron motion being the cause or giving rise to a permanent magnets magnetic field, or an associated electric field due to the motion of those electrons.

Take a look again, this stuff is all just basic nuts and bolts.  You saw the instantaneous magnetic field for a charge moving in a straight line.  It's a no brainer to make the charge one electron and have it move in a circle.  A circle is just millions of short straight lines strung together.

Here is the video that you said won't exist:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PgE5TE8KI4

It's for a hydrogen atom, big deal.  Note the circular motion equations are from grade 11 Physics.  It's essentially the same thing for an iron atom where you can ignore the inner electrons and just deal with the outermost pair (if I recall correctly) of electrons.

Every iron atom has a calculable magnetic dipole moment.  A magnetic domain is just millions of iron atoms with magnetic dipole moments that are all aligned in the same direction.  All of the magnetic fields from each iron atom do vector addition with all of the other atoms in the magnetic domain to give you a magnetic dipole moment for the entire domain.

A magnet is just a collection of magnetic domains where most of the domains are pointing in the same direction.

A magnet is ultimately just trillions of magnetic fields added together that are produced by trillions of outer electrons in iron atoms that are mostly spinning in the same direction and with the same alignment.

So the magnetic field from a magnet is simply due to moving electrons.