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DeBunk This

Started by tinman, April 15, 2016, 07:41:05 AM

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tinman

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 01, 2016, 05:57:08 AM
How about this one then?  I think he'd get the heck shocked out of him if this one was supplied by mains power through thin wires or such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUb0Y24vDtc

I'm still not convinced about the wireless power system either, but I think this video pretty much rules out mains power getting to the bulb at least.

Well for a good portion of the video,he holds the device at right angles to the bench top. This would mean that any inductive coupling between a driver coil,and receiver coil is decoupled.
The two motors look un-modified to me,you can see both big rotors still turning as they should.
Even the shorted turns are still on both stator cores.

Lidmotor?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUb0Y24vDtc


Brad

Lidmotor

Brad and TK
  This one we are looking at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUb0Y24vDtc

  -----is still a major puzzle along with the Chinese one.  The induction explanation doesn't work for me because of the angles and distance.  I don't think that a hidden battery or super cap is the answer either.  If they are hiding a power feed wire then they are doing a really good job of it.  Perhaps it is video editing?  I have seen about three or four running example videos and two non-running failure videos.  I'm not seeing anything that shows a clear description of how this could possibly be real.  It is faked --but how?

--Rusty

TinselKoala

I think there's an edit at 3:45 just after he changes the "polarity" of the wire connection to the second motor. But that still doesn't explain how it's done.

I could do it, but not "simply". It would take a lot of work, cutting away the hidden parts of the cores inside the coils and stuffing things in there like a battery and some electronics. Somehow I doubt that this is how it's done; there must be a simpler system.

As far as wireless power is concerned, I'm not too worried about the orientation; I don't think there's any rule that says he has to be using a single wireless transmitter in just one plane!  But I'm still not completely convinced that is the answer, either.

tinman

Well,we know for sure that it dose not work as claimed-dont we?
But as of yet,we dont know how it dose work,or how they do it. Some of the video's could be done,but some seem to be a little more tricky.

The last video you posted TK,looked to have some kind of paper mash around the bulb.
Perhaps a hidden power source in the bulb,but that still leaves the motor.

I have two of the very same shaded pole motors now,so i will keep at it until i can achieve the effect.

Brad

Lidmotor

  I am still working on this and today I got the idea that perhaps the rotors are not rotors but PM motors.  I threw together a little setup to test the idea and after working with it decided that this is not the way.  Too much cogging in the motors. :( I made a video to show what it looked like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCMBhTNfnz0

Back to the drawing board for me. 


Rusty

This is what I thought might have been used but I don't think so now.