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Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

Started by Farmhand, April 21, 2013, 09:00:24 AM

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jbignes5

Quote from: synchro1 on September 01, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
The "Tesla Series Bifilar Coil" can not charge it's own capacitance through the wire coil like a normal LC tank because the capacitance is sealed. Running D.C. current into a normal LC capacitor through the inductor will trigger the oscillation after the capacitor is full and wants to discharge. This may be the cause of the fundamental error our experimenters fall pray to. The "Series Bifilar Tank" won't work the same way. You need to not only charge the wire coil, you then need to induce a "Violent Field Collapse" to fully charge it's self capacitance. You can't test the "Series Bifilar" cold. It's just another piece of copper dead tanked.   


Yeah that charging in an active system has to be from the coil inputs(inside to outside). But if you use it passively you can charge the bifilar very easily through normal inductive action(outside to inside).


Remember guys the bifilar has no other opposition to impulses but for the dc resistance. Reduce that resistance by paralleling and you get an excellent impulse target through it's own connections at it's resonant frequency.


The bifilar coil I think is the perfect emitter and also the perfect receiver based on the circuit used. The work JLN Labs did shows this. Weather the source is outside or internal it acts like a diode from the capacitance being charged internally. This allows it to be explained by the kid on the swing analogy and  resonance is merely the timing of the pushes then according to the position of the kid on the swing.


I am also of the opinion that the bifilar pancake series connected coil is an accelerator of real charges. Tesla spent some time on the concept of energizing matter to the point that it is accelerated away then if it is aimed at a target it's hit on the target releases the energy based on speed of the excited matter and it's surface area plus if the matter breaks apart that energy is added as well. Tesla really knew what he was talking about. So there are many things bifilar pancakes can be used for.


Lets think about this for a second. Charges can be accelerated in a bifilar pancake coil that is serial connected. That increases the potential by the speed of the movement alone. A diode like effect is created from the geometry of the coils and internal capacitance. A bifilar coil series connected uses both polarities of a source solenoid. The capacitance determines the the direction the diode works in and both polarities enter the coil according to the capacitors polarity. Every capacitor has a polarity and this fact should be applied to the bifilar design as well.


In the Captret thread we discovered that capacity is not sealed at all. That we can draw from the capacitance through the case to extract energy or potential of the capacitor itself through the metal case via the induction between the case and each plate. So unshielded caps are a way to get or send potential via an outside metallic plate. If the potential field is done in the right manner you can ring the cap and get additional energy via the cap discharge through induction and adding capacitive inertia to the system. In a bifilar coil this is the same premise. All capacitance must be figured into the design to get the best results. This includes the capacitance between the bifilar and the external plate plus the rest of the circuit. Every aspect must be planned for.


The dc component can emulate an AC signal if you change the reference spot.


..... _____          DC Pulse 50v
......|        |
......|        |
......|        |........  AC zero line
......|        |
___|        |          DC pulse 0V


Now change the reference 0V to middle and you get simulated AC through discharging a cap into a solenoid. The reverse swing is created in the pulse reflecting back into a normal solenoid effectively changing the DC pulse to AC via the magnetic field.
Adding a bifilar wrap over the solenoid should allow you to capture any waste field in the bifilar capacitance as well.

I haven't done much experimenting yet with the bifilar coil. I am looking for a good spot to call home and get the lab up and running first. Trying for a farm type setup but we will have to see.

forest

You think too much.  ;D All we need is strong magnetic field without consuming much amps.  ;) and you can do it with many bifilar coils connected together, because they are designed for electromagnets. 8)

stupify12

I agree with this good explanation Farmhand.. I think the self-inductance you are talking guys are a lot different from which Tesla says on his papers. I think Tesla is referring to the [Counter EMF]Self Induction of the coil in the COIL FOR ELECTROMAGNETS.

By the way, Tesla never said cancellation of self induction, rather Tesla stated Neutralization of Self Induction of the Coil.

I agree with this statement:Farmhand
Quotehowever with a coil for electro-magnets if no external capacitor is required to get resonance (in other words the coils own self
capacitance is enough C to get resonance with the L of the coil at a certain frequency), then in that case with no external
capacitor resonance is achieved and the resonance or near resonance is what has the effect of the cancellation of the "effects"
of the self induction.

I also agree with you Farmhand on this statement:
Quotebut the bifilar wound then
series connected coil will have a higher self capacitance and therefor a lower self resonant frequency and it is at or near the
self resonant frequency that the coil's self capacitance effectively cancels the "effects" of the coils self inductance then the only
resistance faced by the currents is the DC resistance of the coils windings.

Additional info: The Tesla Transmitter and Reciever is a Bifilar Coil when the two Tuned Coils are place near to each other.. Tesla is more into the Capacity of anything on our surrounding, The Tesla Transceiver is working because it is virtually connected with Capacitance of Air and Earth Ground as Dielectric... 

I believe the most simple design which replicated Tesla's work with harnessing the energy from the capacity is Ed Gray.. The Ed Gray Tube is a simple Vacuum Tube Triode that was taken from all Tesla devices..
For example the rod on the Ed Gray Spark Gap is a carbon rod which is taken from Tesla' Arc Lightning Incandescent Bulb design. I think everyone knows when a metal is heated it will emit electrons which can charged plates.
Read the Tesla Incandescent Bulb design and look for the world Charge Receiving Element which sound so familiar when we talk with Ed Gray Tube..

If we actually build a device according to Tesla's design then everything is on the right track. I believe you are more focus on Coils but not in the Capacity which Tesla was always amaze.

Meow  ;)

Quote from: Farmhand on September 01, 2014, 04:44:35 PM
Oh OK , I get you now, but that cancelling of the self inductance so that the currents face only the DC resistance of the coils is
not a result of a cancellation between the windings, it's an effect of resonance or near resonance due to the L and C of the coil,

In a coil that is connected in opposing mode there is no inductance to begin with, no inductance means a totally cancelled
magnetic field and that configuration is a coil resistor.  The coil for electro-magnets has the two windings connected in series
adding configuration to and for the same amount of wire as a regular coil has the same inductance, but the bifilar wound then
series connected coil will have a higher self capacitance and therefor a lower self resonant frequency and it is at or near the
self resonant frequency that the coil's self capacitance effectively cancels the "effects" of the coils self inductance then the only
resistance faced by the currents is the DC resistance of the coils windings.

Sparks, those are regular spiral coils, The Coil For Electro-Magnets Patent covers all coils and a spiral coil was shown in the
patent drawings only because it showed the arrangement and connections well I think. However anything more than a single
layer coil cannot be a perfect embodiment of the concept due to non uniformity.

Fourth paragraph of the patent, the patent applies to any form of coils. Very clearly stated.

http://www.google.com/patents/US512340

..

sparks

  I made a diagram of how I think Tesla's wireless transfer of energy was to work.  I used just lumped components to show that in a tank the current  between inductor and capacitor is ac whille the voltage across cap is dc.  The secondary capacitance is developed in the tower between Earth and ground with air being the dielectric.  The inductance by the mass and geometry of the copper employed in the spiral coil and the riser to the top terminal.  The whole idea is to get the tower q and the ground q maxed out.  Get the resonance to occur at the lowest frequency possible so you don't start broad casting. 
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synchro1

I noticed this video today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxcS0oYsBG4

"Ohms law people, ohms law. The wire is a resistor. Assuming the length of the windings is the same, when hooked up in parallel the resistance of the wire is DIVIDED by 2 (2 resistors in parallel is half the rating), when hooked in series the resistance of the wire is DOUBLED (2 resistors in series is doubled resistance). When the bifilar coil is hooked up in series, the power draw is 1/4 of that in parallel. This is a fundamental secret in many free energy/OU machines".