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Overunity Machines Forum



MH's ideal coil and voltage question

Started by tinman, May 08, 2016, 04:42:41 AM

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Can a voltage exist across an ideal inductor that has a steady DC current flowing through it

yes it can
5 (25%)
no it cannot
11 (55%)
I have no idea
4 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 20

tinman

Quote from: minnie on May 11, 2016, 04:53:25 AM


  This photo is for the Tinman.
   Basically we get too much overunity and have to hand-rear the triplets.
   These are a few of this years pets.
   How about this for a business idea Tinman? Start the manufacture of
   braking systems for overunity machines.
    The one thing Wayne Travis got right on his early plans for his church
   was the provision of a cooling system!!!

Seems you have hit the bottle again John.

Any chance you could provide useful input into this thread?.


Brad

tinman

Quote from: Magneticitist on May 11, 2016, 01:44:31 AM
let's say this is true, and it honestly makes a degree of sense even though I disagree in principle..
Wouldn't this mean the inductor is 'perfectly' accomplishing the exact opposite of what it's supposed to be perfectly doing in nature? Wouldn't the EMF and CMF be increasing against each other the entire time to infinity? And wouldn't that have to mean a continuously rising current?

How does that not constitute current change?

Because the current produced by the inductor is equal and opposite to that being provided by the ideal voltage source,and so no current flows,but it dose rise to an infinite amount.



I have asked this question before--what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object?.


Brad

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on May 09, 2016, 03:25:57 PM
Well now I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone.

Poynt:  The current is one over "L" integral v dt.

That's 1/5 * integral (4) dt.

That's 1/5 * 4t.

That's 4/5*t.

When t = 3 seconds that's 12/5 = 2.4 amps.

Can we get out of the Zone now?

And when t= 20 seconds that's 9714.05 amps.
Poynt ran his sim for 100 second's (what would be the current then ?),and still he had no voltage drop :D


Brad

Pirate88179

Quote from: tinman on May 11, 2016, 06:12:39 AM
Because the current produced by the inductor is equal and opposite to that being provided by the ideal voltage source,and so no current flows,but it dose rise to an infinite amount.



I have asked this question before--what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object?.


Brad


Like I said before...

The Big Bang.  Then, it all starts all over again.  An endless cycle.

Of course, this is just a theory.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

minnie




     tinman,I've had a great find.
     Have a look at Electronics-Tutorials w.s.
     With all the crap you've been coming out with lately you're like me and
     really need to start from the very beginning.
     There's a lot about inductors and it's very basic and even I've been able
     to inch forward, albeit very slowly.
     Good luck,John.