MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[wattsup]

@MH

You really are either willfully ignorant or willfully deceptive.

Give me one reason why for endless pages and pages i would disagree with your question continuously stating to you that ideal voltages do not change in time. @verpies again just confirmed this. You knew all along that we did not "understand" your question because there was no other reason for anyone to object to the question unless they understood the whole process to be one event.

You willfully, and, I have to add with the aid of others who were in the know but decided to just shut up and let the commotion continue endlessly, decided to not clarify the question and leave it as the ambiguous piece of shit it was. You had the choice but you decided to just play along, you fed the fire, you were implicit in this and played us for fools for two weeks.

You knew that one little clarification that would not have given out any of the answers to your question but would have brought more fluency to the question would have solved the whole matter, but you decided to both play your, "I am an EE king and you need to learn boy attitude". So now I know how much of a prick you are and will leave you to play with yourself.

You are an insult to EE teaching and I have to say now that those who knew were the small discrepancy was in this question and did not step forward to provide a correction are no better. But the onus was fully on @MH as he played the teacher fiddle and he knew the question was not in tune but he kept on whipping away enjoying ever minute.

So now, no more trust. You burned that one to hell this time. You played us for fools. You are now off my list. If I ever see you on any of my threads, you will be deleted so don't bother. I have no more trust in your opinions since I know now you are only on this forum to up your own ego. So enjoy it.

@tinman

Listen. I am only going to say this once. If you knew @MH's question involved 6 separate events combined in one sequence, then you had no damn reason to object to his question. So don't pretend you fully understood his question because that would be adding to the pile of bull already on the floor.

@all

All you guys do is play games. Every thread starts holy molly and ends in bullshit. And what did you learn about the coil, F all, but keep on plastering those games all over the placed and wish and wish and wish some more.

wattsup

[tinman]

@MH









@tinman

Listen. I am only going to say this once. If you knew @MH's question involved 6 separate events combined in one sequence, then you had no damn reason to object to his question. So don't pretend you fully understood his question because that would be adding to the pile of bull already on the floor.



wattsup

And when did i object to his question?
I started this thread to answer his question,not object to it--so i dont know what page you are on,but it's the wrong one.
I fully understood his question from the day i read it,and did not object to the question at all.
I object to the fact that the EE guys think the answer is simple and straight forward,as when you use ideal components,it is never straight forward.

So i really do not know why you have said what you have said,as i do not object to the question,nor have i ever done so--other than the use of ideal components that dont exist being used in the question.
If real world components were used in place of the ideal components,then the answer is pretty straight forward,and that answer would depend on how much information MH required for the answer. Would he want to know things like magnetic field strengths during each part of the cycle?. Would he want to know coil temperatures at the start middle and end of the cycle?.

When you ask--what happens from T=0,leaves a very big list to choose from,and this was unspecified in the question.


Brad

[MileHigh]

Wattsup:

You are truly baffling, and even Brad says you are baffling.  From your comments it's like you are on another planet.

Brad:

The only thing you need to know about the ideal voltage source for this question is that it puts out the waveform as described.

So can you move forward now and try to answer the question?

MileHigh

[wattsup]

And when did i object to his question?
I started this thread to answer his question,not object to it--so i dont know what page you are on,but it's the wrong one.
I fully understood his question from the day i read it,and did not object to the question at all.
I object to the fact that the EE guys think the answer is simple and straight forward,as when you use ideal components,it is never straight forward.

So i really do not know why you have said what you have said,as i do not object to the question,nor have i ever done so--other than the use of ideal components that dont exist being used in the question.
If real world components were used in place of the ideal components,then the answer is pretty straight forward,and that answer would depend on how much information MH required for the answer. Would he want to know things like magnetic field strengths during each part of the cycle?. Would he want to know coil temperatures at the start middle and end of the cycle?.

When you ask--what happens from T=0,leaves a very big list to choose from,and this was unspecified in the question.


Brad

@tinman

Wow, this is playing out to be one hell of drama here.

I cannot believe if you knew what the actual question meant, you would have had a problem answering it then. The only reason I backed you up in this is because I saw this question as to ambiguous and did not openly imply 6 separate MANUAL settings of voltage. In my book there was no other VALID reason to object to it since we all new it was under ideal conditions. We know ideal conditions do not exist but the way the question was asked was in my book, deceptive in the process, not in the substance.

So good luck then.

Added: When did you object to the question? Just look at the JT thread which is the origin.

@MH

When you ask a question, you know, if your life depended on that question, you would be toast by now. Everyone should just go back and read the question from the stand point of an outsider, not your EE brainiacs perspective. Questions are not for those that are in the know. They are for those that want to understand your viewpoint. It's your view you want to bring across and you did a shitty job of it. I don't know where @tinamn is coming from to say he understood it. If he did, then bads on him. 

Enough of this.

wattsup

[MileHigh]

Brad:

If real world components were used in place of the ideal components,then the answer is pretty straight forward,and that answer would depend on how much information MH required for the answer. Would he want to know things like magnetic field strengths during each part of the cycle?. Would he want to know coil temperatures at the start middle and end of the cycle?.

We already discussed a variation on the question.  How about you answer it where you add an 0.00001 ohm resistance to the 5 Henry coil?  That's the only thing that needs to be added.  The answer will be almost identical, you are free to go that route if you want.

There is no need to know the magnetic field strength, and no need to know the coil temperature.

MileHigh