Does Dielectric Displacement Current generate a magnetic field?

[John.K1]

Why does an electron only create a magnetic field when its moving, why not at rest?
When its energized is it spinning and not at rest?

Hi Dave, I can imagine that every electron is actually little magnet, if they move chaotically the magnetic field cancel. Once the electrons move in one direction their magnetic fields alignes and you get measurable value. Not sure if there is such thing as electron in the rest.

[Reiyuki]

@dave,
  If we're following the electron model, I'd agree with John.K1, that spins are present but chaotic, and when moving they order themselves.  Coherent vs chaotic.  I suspect unipolar induction math could mathematically describe the behavior.   Wattsup would likely explain it under nuclear "Spin Conveyance" model and ignore electrons entirely.


Continuing on, the question is whether dielectric current has an associated magnetic field:

If the answer is 'Yes', then it likely means:
* With coils, extra energy might be extracted from our capacitor to do to real work, as it is charging or discharging.

* A charging/discharging capacitor may be literally boosted by applying a magnetic field as it is charging.  It would look like 'Tesla's Notes on a Unipolar Dynamo' spiral, but instead applied to capacitor plates.  A capacitor made of two opposite pancake winding instead of plates would be incredibly efficient.   (see: 'Mislavskij transformer')

If the answer is 'No', then it likely means:
* Displacement current is literally superconductive (transmits energy without losses).

* Since it's not bound by magnetism, displacements faster than C might be allowed (since compression waves can propagate faster than individual particle velocities).  I believe Don Smith mentioned dielectric propagation at 1.53c.

* If displacement can occur >C, then it means a fast-discharging capacitor can create free displacements elsewhere in open space.

I think the answer is probably a bit of both (magnetism on the plates, but not in the dielectric).



With these concepts in mind, all of a sudden many of the proclaimed OU systems start to make sense

[lancaIV]

Electromagnetic engine
electromagnets with capacitive (instead dd batteries) windings :
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820817&CC=US&NR=4345174A&KC=A


http://members.shaw.ca/w.elliott/takahashi.html
https://www.google.com/patents/US4551645
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920901&CC=US&NR=5144529A&KC=A

http://web-japan.org/nipponia/nipponia28/en/feature/feature01.html
http://www.inovacaotecnologica.com.br/noticias/noticia.php?artigo=010115040512


http://news.mit.edu/2012/a-novel-ultracapacitor


http://www.newcastleinnovationenergy.com.au/capabilities/supercapacitor-technology

[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi lancaIV,

Thanks for those patents. I've found a patent of a four plate capacitor with some interesting "claims" of glowing, getting cold and self running. It seems he wants to use the cooling effect for air conditioning, maybe some kind of Peltier effect going on between the plates.

CN1104390 - Voltage magnificator, four-pole plate capacitor and permanent cell

https://www.google.com/patents/CN1104390A?cl=en
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=CN&NR=1104390A&KC=A&FT=D

Looks like two inner plates with a static HV DC source and then the outer plates are spiked with DC pulses.

EDIT:

Hi Reiyuki,

Here are some of my notes on effects of spinning dielectrics these are usually opposite of homopolar generators. If the dielectric is spun through a charged field then it will show magnetic properties according to the Rowland Effect.

[lancaIV]

DC pulses: Dirac surges ?