Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory

[earthbound0729]

Thank you for this evaluation and explanation, Brad. It helps to put this in perspective.

Would you be able to focus some attention on the Tesla aether (Radiant energy) concept and his explanation. Again there seems to be confusion or mixed signals on this as well. There are times when I read some of his work that the radiant energy mentioned is that which is available in various forms which we have been taught about in school, including solar, xray, heat, cosmic, etc, most anything along the electromagnetic spectra. At other times Tesla seems to espouse a more esoteric and occult energy source or form, which hasn't really been classified or studied as much per se, although it may well exist, but yet be elusive to easily identify with current technology or machinery.

That same rationale would have been the norm before the demonstrable identification of infared or xray radiation, for instance, since there was a time when we did not possess the technology to "see" them either.

TY,
earthbound

[tinman]

Thank you for this evaluation and explanation, Brad. It helps to put this in perspective.

Would you be able to focus some attention on the Tesla aether (Radiant energy) concept and his explanation. Again there seems to be confusion or mixed signals on this as well. There are times when I read some of his work that the radiant energy mentioned is that which is available in various forms which we have been taught about in school, including solar, xray, heat, cosmic, etc, most anything along the electromagnetic spectra. At other times Tesla seems to espouse a more esoteric and occult energy source or form, which hasn't really been classified or studied as much per se, although it may well exist, but yet be elusive to easily identify with current technology or machinery.

That same rationale would have been the norm before the demonstrable identification of infared or xray radiation, for instance, since there was a time when we did not possess the technology to "see" them either.

TY,
earthbound

The problem with finding Tesla's true meaning of radiant energy,is that his words and work have been riddled with other peoples attempts at understanding his work,and re written in words that were not Tesla's--the grape vine takes hold.

Perhaps he was referring to atmospheric power?.
The potential difference between ground,and 35km up,is a whopping 300 000 volts.
We would only need 10mA of current to have 3000 watts of power. Maybe Tesla found a way to set up some sort of resonant or gathering system to harness this potential energy-->some sort of electrical pumping system?.

I myself,prefer working with permanent magnets immerse in pulsing electromagnetic fields,but where the electromagnetic fields also have physical motion-in that the inductor moves with time.


Brad

[dieter]

Hope you don't mind if I add a few notes.

I think from what we know from the Tesla patents (radiant energy collecting apparatus), he was referring to radiation of any kind, including Röntgen, cosmic, sun, radio. Actually anything that radiates from a certain point in space and causes accellerated particles.

It is absolutely true that some people use the term whenever they run out of plausible explanations, together with "ZPE", "Ambient background energy", even "Dark Matter" etc. etc.

That's task no. 1 in this field: to recognize the Quacks. They're not all that evil, just repeating some things they read, pdeudoscientific things. Often the loudest, most celebrated celebs are the biggest fakes. I don't mention names tho.

It's better to look at accepted science and search for phenomena there. Things they can't explain. Violations of the conservation of energy, that they are totally scared of and try to disproof desperately.

Which brings us to Bedini and the Back-EMF.

In High Power Grids they often have problems with unconnecting cables with huge currents. Even tho they are unconnected, the currents arc right trough the air, trying to remain connected. During these extreme arcing phenomena energies are being dissipated that are bejond any explanation, except maybe for socalled electron avalanche phenomena.

This tendency of current flow, to conserve a state of flowing, is similar to the conservation of motion of mass (at least similar when trying to stop it), the inertia of mass, although in electrical inertia newtons law cannot explain where it comes from.

It is this inertia, this elasticity, that has the ability to pull energy from unnamed sources. If you ever manage to gather a gain from Back-EMF harvesting, it is this inertia phenomenon that has pulled it from the space-time equilibrium (I love the sound of that one). But as I said before, it is the amount of change of field strentgh that gives the energy output. So if you can increase the magnitude or frequency of those changes AT NO COST (eg. by interrupting a current frequently, that would flow otherwise almost like DC) then you may achieve energy gain. Esp. since every interruption causes a back EMF that by it's own bears a huge magnitude.

But yes, SSGs have losses. Nevertheless, it's a start for experimentation.

[darediamond]

See the reality is BACK EMF is COMPLETELY A FREE ENERGY WHICH CAN CONSTANSTLY BE HLGAINED USING HIGH FREQUENCY HIGH VOLTAGE AT THE CORRECT DUTY CYCLE.

YOU CAN ONLY HARVEST BACK EMF WITH HIGH FREQUENCY DIODES AND HIGH VOLTAGE DC CAPACTORS

BUT TO REALLY REALLY BE ABLE TO HARVEST BACK EMF YOU NEED CAPACITORLIKE WOUND AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

BY CAPACITORLIKE WINDING I MEAN EACHBLAYERS OFNWINDING IN SPIRAL FORM MUST BE WELL INSULATED FROM THE OVERLAPPING ONE. THIS WILL MAKEBTHE ELECTROMAGNET TO STORE AND RELEASE HIGH DESISITY OF ENERGY.

YOU MUST WIND THE COIL IN SPIRAL AND USE TWISTED MULTIFILAR WIRES (not bifilar) TO MAKE THE AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

BUT AIRCORE IS NOT THE BEST IF YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN HIGH FREQUENCY CORE USING MAGNETITE AND EPOXY.  IF YOU CAN MAKE THIS, THEN THE HIGH FREQUENCY COULD E WILL ALLOW YOU TO GET MORE FREE ENERGY THAN YOU EVER IMMAGINE.

IT IS AT HIGH FREQUENCY THAT THE FREE HIGH FREQUENCY ELECTRICITY IN THE AIR IS MOVING AND CAN BE LURED BY AN HARVESTER (electromagnet).



Solid state switch is the best but hard to make and maintained if you do not understands the know how about it. The Permanent magnet in Benoni SG are not really needed when you use Solid state High Voltage High Frequency Switch. 

[earthbound0729]

I am addressing the last three posters: Brad, dieter and darediamond collectively, ie, in the same post, as there are topics of interest in each which tend to have some overlap and bear on this subject.

Brad's quote

The problem with finding Tesla's true meaning of radiant energy,is that his words and work have been riddled with other peoples attempts at understanding his work,and re written in words that were not Tesla's--the grape vine takes hold.

Perhaps he was referring to atmospheric power?.
The potential difference between ground,and 35km up,is a whopping 300 000 volts.
We would only need 10mA of current to have 3000 watts of power. Maybe Tesla found a way to set up some sort of resonant or gathering system to harness this potential energy-->some sort of electrical pumping system?."

Tesla mentioned this apparently in his speech on The Magnifying Transmitter:
"The truth is this: In the air the potential increases at the rate of about fifty volts per foot of elevation, owing to which there may be a difference of pressure amounting to twenty, or even forty thousand volts between the upper and lower ends of the antenna. The masses of the charged atmosphere are constantly in motion and give up electricity to the conductor, not continuously, but rather disruptively, this producing a grinding noise in a sensitive telephonic receiver. The higher the terminal and the greater the space encompassed by the wires, the more pronounced is the effect, but it must be understood that it is purely local and has little to do with the real trouble."

I myself,prefer working with permanent magnets immerse in pulsing electromagnetic fields,but where the electromagnetic fields also have physical motion-in that the inductor moves with time.

I thought about the concept of movement of a permanent magnet through or past a wire wound coil and my question was "How far does the magnet have to travel to induce any current or voltage?" I say that because I was thinking, can the magnet travel a very small distance because of some resonance or frequency established in the magnet itself and thus satisfy the requirement? This would be something like I envision a crystal oscillator to be. Some small electric voltage is applied to this crystalline material and it vibrates at a given frequency. Why not a permanent magnet likewise?


dieter quote:

But as I said before, it is the amount of change of field strentgh that gives the energy output. So if you can increase the magnitude or frequency of those changes AT NO COST (eg. by interrupting a current frequently, that would flow otherwise almost like DC) then you may achieve energy gain. Esp. since every interruption causes a back EMF that by it's own bears a huge magnitude.

Perfect for the air core coil experiments with a high frequency pulse. Or see below after darediamond in my response

Now the question becomes how complicated of a circuit is needed to achieve these pulsations?

Should a Tesla coil be part of the answer? The reason I ask this is because so many of the videos and instructibles I have watched concerning the Tesla coils, especially the SSTCs describe problems with mosfet overheating, proper resonance related to the correct number of primary turns and secondary turns. How long is the coil and how wide? Seems like endless possibilities. Also too, I am not trying to produce any sparking or displays of such a nature as we usually associate with the Tesla coils.

On TinselKoalas video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMQkCW5vZVc
he talks about the CD4046BE Phase Locked Loop (PLL) which contains its own Voltage Controlled Oscillator (VCO). This could be good for a setup like this even without trying to cause sparks or corona, or as seen below maybe with a carbonyl iron material.



darediamond quote:

YOU CAN ONLY HARVEST BACK EMF WITH HIGH FREQUENCY DIODES AND HIGH VOLTAGE DC CAPACTORS

BUT TO REALLY REALLY BE ABLE TO HARVEST BACK EMF YOU NEED CAPACITORLIKE WOUND AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

BY CAPACITORLIKE WINDING I MEAN EACHBLAYERS OFNWINDING IN SPIRAL FORM MUST BE WELL INSULATED FROM THE OVERLAPPING ONE. THIS WILL MAKEBTHE ELECTROMAGNET TO STORE AND RELEASE HIGH DESISITY OF ENERGY.

YOU MUST WIND THE COIL IN SPIRAL AND USE TWISTED MULTIFILAR WIRES (not bifilar) TO MAKE THE AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

BUT AIRCORE IS NOT THE BEST IF YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN HIGH FREQUENCY CORE USING MAGNETITE AND EPOXY.  IF YOU CAN MAKE THIS, THEN THE HIGH FREQUENCY COULD E WILL ALLOW YOU TO GET MORE FREE ENERGY THAN YOU EVER IMMAGINE.

Why isn't the standard magnet wire enough insulation in this case?
I have seen that there is a Carbonyl iron material that is used in high frequency applications so this might be preferable to a pure air coil for magnetic field generation and energy harvesting even at high frequencies if they work as good as that.

While on Ebay I see that some people were selling these carbonyl iron toroidal cores. I would consider stacking them and glueing with epoxy to keep them aligned if anyoine thinks this could be a reasonable substitute. I did that on a similar setup I was working on with a Joule thief circuit designed by lasersaber.

I would even consider buying them and crushing them to powder and reglueing them in some way to make a custom core if that would work.

Anyway, lots to think about, discuss, and create some experiments. Some of you all who actually may have a Tesla coil in the closet can help, especially if you have an oscilloscope setup to take readings for us.

thanks everyone for sharing ideas. I'd love to see some things gel.
earthbound