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Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory

Started by earthbound0729, May 29, 2016, 10:49:22 AM

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ltseung888

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 12, 2016, 05:02:45 AM
Yes, that's right. I should have elaborated more. That circuit is used to determine the resonant frequency of the coil, by manually adjusting the potentiometer which varies the frequency of the VCO. When the resonant frequency is reached both LEDs will light up.

Here's the full implementation of the PLL used in my TinselKoil IX:

Can you please show the DSO waveform of a pulse?  Best to have the current across a one ohm resistor and the voltage cross a coil.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
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ourbobby

Quote from: tinman on June 04, 2016, 01:17:38 PM
Ok,well i guess it comes down to whether you want to work with the truth,or follow the Bedini brotherhood?.

The brotherhood would have you believe that the bedini circuits pull in radiant energy,but the truth is,the bedini circuits actually emit radiant energy-they do not pull it in.
This radiant energy is in the form of electromagnetic energy,that is emitted from the inductor/coil of the bedini circuit's. Some of this radiant energy is also emitted as heat,by way of resistive heating. Anything that has resistance,and where a current flows through that resistance,heat is emitted-or radiated away from the circuit,and dissipates into the surrounding air.

The biggest problem here,and why some believe that the bedini circuits produce some sort of !overunity! effect,is due to the lack of understanding between surface charge,and deep charge of lead acid batteries.

The second !trick! that you see on bedini's forum's,that is in some way suppose to prove more P/out than P/in,is what they call the !1 ohm !test. But what they do not understand,is the current loop that exist within the circuit,and it is in this current loop where they place there 1 ohm resistor to try and show more power out than in.

Todays !off the shelf! boost converters are far more efficient than the bedini circuit's,and a lot of battery chargers these day's come out with a desulphator function.

But it's like i said--you can choose the bedini way,or you can choose the truth-->it's up to you.


Brad

HelloTinman,
                    I think your arguments about John Bedini are somewhat simplistic. First credit has to be given to him for developing an interest into examining "radiant energy" - whatever this means to you. You criticise the 1 ohm test, which originates back into 1984ish. Things have moved on a bit since then, and even John Bedini himself admits the simplicity of the demonstration. It was performed in the formative years. Where it would appear, you still reside. Then again, John Bedini categorically states that there is no such thing as free energy, its all about understanding the physics of, as you might call it, the trick! As for off the shelf battery chargers and converters, have you not heard on John Bedini's company Energex. Perhaps, you might like to have a go at that too?

John Bedini is very careful about detailed explanations. Many find this annoying. they like to have explanations spelt out. John Bedini does not do that. He would prefer that you have a go at it yourself and then seek some assistance. For those committed to experimentation and research, they will find the clues to some of his discoveries. I suppose his one wire demonstration to the IEEE members of Tesla's one wire electricity was a "trick" as well. The list goes on. I am not of the Brotherhood, or associated with him in anyway whatsoever. I just review the information, try replicating circuit or ideas and move on.

I suppose the question begging, that we would all like an answer to is "What is the Truth?"


Have a nice day

tinman

Quote from: ourbobby on June 16, 2016, 08:10:30 AM
HelloTinman,
                    I think your arguments about John Bedini are somewhat simplistic. First credit has to be given to him for developing an interest into examining "radiant energy" - whatever this means to you. You criticise the 1 ohm test, which originates back into 1984ish. Things have moved on a bit since then, and even John Bedini himself admits the simplicity of the demonstration. It was performed in the formative years. Where it would appear, you still reside. Then again, John Bedini categorically states that there is no such thing as free energy, its all about understanding the physics of, as you might call it, the trick! As for off the shelf battery chargers and converters, have you not heard on John Bedini's company Energex. Perhaps, you might like to have a go at that too?

John Bedini is very careful about detailed explanations. Many find this annoying. they like to have explanations spelt out. John Bedini does not do that. He would prefer that you have a go at it yourself and then seek some assistance. For those committed to experimentation and research, they will find the clues to some of his discoveries. I suppose his one wire demonstration to the IEEE members of Tesla's one wire electricity was a "trick" as well. The list goes on. I am not of the Brotherhood, or associated with him in anyway whatsoever. I just review the information, try replicating circuit or ideas and move on.

I suppose the question begging, that we would all like an answer to is "What is the Truth?"


Have a nice day

The truth is this.
I have watched video's where John clearly says his pulse motors will run them self--not one to date is able to do that.
You have Arron The rookie,and Peter Lindermann selling books of !secrets! that also claim to lead the way to self runners--but they never do.
I have been experimenting with pulse motors for many years now,and i can tell you straight that one will never run it self-->any resistance means a loss,and all of Johns devices have wires,and that = resistance.
The 1 ohm test is a farce ,and nothing more than a trick to those who know no better.
Another fact is,that some of the !off the shelf! battery reconditioners are more efficient than anything John has to date.
Another fact is,John was not the first to design or build a transistor triggered/switched pulse motor that used the inductive spike to do work-see link below,and find the truth
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Radio-Logbooks/Science-and-Electronics/Science-and-Electronics-1969-12-01.pdf


Not you,or anyone else(even those like Peter Lindermann,John Bedini,and Arron the rookie) can show a self runner--this is fact,not fiction,and yet they take peoples money on that false premise.



Brad

earthbound0729

Hello Everyone,

I'm quoting myself here from the beginning of this thread and would like to pick up here.

QuoteIs this actually true?

The reason this is so important is because if the higher amount of radiant energy which Tesla talked about is to be achieved, then the frequency of the cycle has to be in the megahertz to nanohertz range (I think l I read this from The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity, but I'm not sure) with a narrow "On Time," which doesn't seem possible with a simple rotating wheel with magnets attached, or using a Hall Effect sensor, etc. I wouldn't expect these rates to be accomplished without actually utilizing a solid state circuit controlled by a microprocessor, or other dedicated timing chip to generate the timing to the NPN transistor or other such device triggering the magnetic field activation and collapse.

And along these same lines, then it seems reasonable that an air core coil would be more useful because of its working in the higher frequency ranges.

After going back through my notes.
1. How would Tesla ever have achieved the frequencies (megahertz to nanohertz ranges) he mentioned with the equipment in the late 1800's to early 1900's. Amazing. More importantly, there are frequency generators on the market in the tens of thousands of dollars and upwards USD, that can actually generate these signals in the extremely high frequency range in  which Tesla mentioned.

2. At least on one of the points I had written down in dealing with Tesla says in paraphrase,
QuoteElectro-Radiant impulses shorter than 100 microseconds (1 million microseceonds per second--this equals 1 megahertz) are completely safe to handle and will not cause shock or harm.
So actually getting or making a frequency generator of this type may be difficult or expensive, and maybe not even completely necessary, considering that my initial query dealt with being able to trigger a coil without a rotating mechanism.
And this last point,
QuoteElectro-Radiant impulses shorter than 100 nanoseconds (1 billion nanoseconds per second--this equals 1 gigahertz) are cold and easily cause lighting effects in vacuum globes.

3. Many low cost frequency generators abound on Ebay, and TinselKoala was considerate enough to provide several circuits and his Youtube videos, including the discussion we had concerning PLL and Tesla coils. I believe the 555 timers can get frequencies over 1 MHz with the right capacitors and resistors. My question in this area actually deals with creating a high frequency (megahertz range) coil and what parameters are involved to create that device. Specifically does it have to do with wire size,length, wire wraps, length of coil, and diameter? And if any of this is true, what algorithm can be used to consistently do this?

Thanks for everyone's involvement,
earthbound