regenerative acceleration

[tinman]

ok....


Why even concern yourself with why I think something is great or not?  I can and will think what I want about what I build, I don't need permission, nor approval, from anyone to think something I find and present is a good thing. 

Knock yourself out, build something, your effort will not be considered as a replication by me, as I haven't provided you with any details regarding my machine.  Your effort will be your attempt at replicating a vague presentation. 



Strange how easy something becomes after someone else demonstrates it.  Sure this stuff is easy, that's not the point though, my point was made.  The effect was demonstrated with low resistance, low inductance air core coils.  Like it or not, that was the point.  You nor no one else have demonstrated this, ergo my posting.  If it were demonstrated by you or another, there wouldn't have been a point in posting.
 
I thought about it.....no, I don't think I will be doing any kind of power measurements.  What would be the point in that, the purpose of the demonstration was clear.  When the time comes to make a presentation regarding input vs output, no data will be collected.  One thing rings true on all of these platforms, there is no standard for proper measurement, everyone and I do mean everyone has a problem with the way things are measured.  Since its impossible to please any one individual, might as well be ignored by all.  If the demonstrations are thought provoking enough, they won't be ignored long.
 
You think I am sharing because I want your opinion of my effort?  You think I want my illusions shattered?  I rather enjoy looking at the machines the way I do now, I am content with my view of how and why things are happening the way they are.  You are making that mistake again, in assuming that this is only about speeding up, it's about more than that, and my job is to stay true to myself, and my false (to you and a few others), ideas.  That being said....no...no description of my setup.  As I mentioned before, you can try your luck and may come up with something that does demonstrate speed up, but you cannot catch and derail this train, whatever you come up with, it will have nothing in common with what I am doing other than the ability to accelerate, and that my friend is magic. 


Regards

Fair enough.


Brad

[hoptoad]

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You think I am sharing because I want your opinion of my effort?  You think I want my illusions shattered?  I rather enjoy looking at the machines the way I do now, I am content with my view of how and why things are happening the way they are.  You are making that mistake again, in assuming that this is only about speeding up, it's about more than that, and my job is to stay true to myself, and my false (to you and a few others), ideas.  That being said....no...no description of my setup.  As I mentioned before, you can try your luck and may come up with something that does demonstrate speed up, but you cannot catch and derail this train, whatever you come up with, it will have nothing in common with what I am doing other than the ability to accelerate, and that my friend is magic.
Regards

Sad you feel this way.
I'm not assuming anything about your designs. But I am curious, and always open to learn something new. Hope you change your mind about sharing, wish you well in your own endeavors, nonetheless.
Cheers

[tinman]

Sad you feel this way.
I'm not assuming anything about your designs. But I am curious, and always open to learn something new. Hope you change your mind about sharing, wish you well in your own endeavors, nonetheless.
Cheers

The only true way to confirm that air core coils(or any generating coil for that matter) alone are what is providing the acceleration under load,is to have them as a generator in a stand alone setup,where the generating coils are not also part of the motor,or placed within the motor coils magnetic field range.

First you run the motor(a DC brushed motor in this case) at a set RPM,and obtain the P/in for the motor.For example,the motor draws 5 watts of power free running, at say 3000 RPM.

Second-you couple the rotor(that houses the PMs) for the generator to the motor,and carry out your P/in measurement again. We may now have 5.2 watts of power being drawn from the motor.

Third-you place your stator coils in position-what ever that may be in regards to the rotor carrying the PMs. You once again carry out the power consumed by the motor. You are now surprised to see your motor is drawing 5.3 watts of power . Well even open copper/ali wound coils create eddy currents,much like just placing a sheet of copper or ali next to the spinning rotor,only your sheet is the coil windings.

Forth-short or place a load on the generating coils. If your motors consumption now go's down to a value equal or less than that of the first steps value(5 watts),which would mean also that the RPM is now equal or greater than 3000 RPM,only then have you really shown that the generating coils have actually done any work,and acceleration under load is truly an event caused by the shorted or loaded coils only.

What i have found,in every case where i have created the effect of speedup under load with low ohm air core coils,is that the shorted coils concentrate the magnetic fields of the drive coil's,so as to force more flux against the rotor magnets,and increase either the push or pull on those rotor magnets. So in essence,the shorted coils block the otherwise wasted magnetic flux produced by the motor coil's,and redirect that flux toward the desired direction--that being in the direction of the rotor magnets. You have just created bucking coils when the generator coils are shorted.

The only way to confirm that there is any free lunch,is to carry out steps 1 to 4 above.
If the shorted coils are incorporated  with the motor coils,the later would be found to be the case,as it was with my L.A.G.

That is my claim,and feel free (anyone) to prove me wrong.


Brad

[conradelektro]

Time is too precious to be invested in trying to prove someone else is wrong, time is better spent investigating those paths that open up for you.  I personally have no interest in proving anything to anyone, nor disproving anything that anyone has said.  Look around you, how many ways did the Creator manifest the idea of a flower.  Its purpose is crystal clear, one would think that standardized form would have been enough.....that's how fools think....

Words come easy, hot air, a foul wind.

It is not so easy to come up with a real invention. Words are no substitute, just an excuse for having nothing.

Greetings, Conrad

[conradelektro]

@Erfinder:

As far as I understood your revelations, you are not prepared to disclose your wonderful invention. So, how can there be a dialogue?

I dislike Erfinders (self proclaimed inventors) who talk in riddles.

It is fine to guard a secrete. But to talk about a secrete without disclosure is totaly useless.

I have a secret, but I will not tell you. Sounds like a four year old.

Greetings, Conrad