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Graham Gunderson's Energy conference presentation Most impressive and mysterious

Started by ramset, July 11, 2016, 07:00:18 PM

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ramset

Being discussed here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20199-energy-conference-graham-gunderson.html


there was some mention of a Mcfree MO ...but all is speculative ATM ,
and just to save the ink

No I don't think he is running his house on it "yet" ,but all will be open sourced !!


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Chet K


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TinselKoala

Well, it has been a year since that conference demonstration, after all.

Was it a demonstration of a McFreehyburger? Or perhaps a demonstration of a device and techniques to fool measuring equipment?

QuoteBoth sets of instruments agreed on the values being measured. From the warm up moment the unit started at 1.53 watts in and 9.43 watts out or a initial COP of 6.16. The load was a 12V automotive lamp that operated during the entire presentation. As time went on the COP improved an hour later the input wattage was down to zero (with four places of accuracy) with the output still at 9.5. That is a COP of infinity, but lets say around 50. I was in the front row to observe this. Graham reported that he has observed the input value go negative like -.25 watts in.

Imagine... zero input watts... but it still had to be connected to the power supply to work! What magic is this?


tak22

Small correction TK, this demo happened 2 days ago, July 9th, 2016.

http://energyscienceconference.com/2016-schedule/


That's a large rig and a lot of money for a 6w output.  :(  Tuning?


tak

Reiyuki

If after further analysis, it all turns out to be a 'ghost in the machine' and eOut < eIn, you still gotta give the guy a hat-tip.

It's a pretty good accomplishment to accidentally fool 2 completely different types of measuring equipment by the same factor consistently over a pretty wide frequency band.

That, and the fact that he's adopted the open-source philosophy and freely shares any detail you ask about.  Helluva lot more noble than many demonstrating similar claims around.

:)

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 11, 2016, 10:39:52 PM
Well, it has been a year since that conference demonstration, after all.

Was it a demonstration of a McFreehyburger? Or perhaps a demonstration of a device and techniques to fool measuring equipment?

Imagine... zero input watts... but it still had to be connected to the power supply to work! What magic is this?

TinselKoala

Quote from: tak22 on July 11, 2016, 11:23:50 PM
Small correction TK, this demo happened 2 days ago, July 9th, 2016.

http://energyscienceconference.com/2016-schedule/


That's a large rig and a lot of money for a 6w output.  :(  Tuning?


tak

Oh, I see, sorry. I was going by the information in the link Ramset posted, where most of the posts are dated from July of 2015.

Can you explain why, if a device is running on "zero watts, to four places of accuracy" it still needs to be plugged into its power supply in order to keep running?