Graham Gunderson's Energy conference presentation Most impressive and mysterious

[poynt99]

TK,

I have no issue with Gunderson measuring his Pin after the H-bridge. I think we can cut him some slack here, as obviously the transformer gadget is the DUT. It just requires a particular input wave form.

If the transformer itself is measured to have a COP>1 that is all that counts, right?

If you had a DUT that required a square wave input, you would measure the output power of your FG, not its AC input, agreed?

[poynt99]

Furthermore--- the Clarke-Hess power analyzers with which I am familiar require several connections to a circuit in order to monitor it properly. To monitor Voltage the instrument is connected like any DMM, across the supply. To monitor Current the instrument is patched _in series_ with the supply and circuit being monitored. Obviously to compute a Power reading both connections must be made.

Here's a photo that you might remember, .99. It shows my (borrowed) C-H analyzer, with its patch connections, measuring the input power to a certain circuit of mine which is out of view above the instrument. Note the negative power reading.

I can haz cheezburger now?

Indeed, there goes the 8-10" of wire connection. I also noticed that Graham had the measurement wiring threading a couple of toroid cores.

Attached is the photo showing the load meter. The voltage side is connected, but the current side appears to be bypassed in this photo. Alas, that is a lot of extra wiring and will introduce a fair bit of parasitic inductance.

[gotoluc]

My 2 X 4 worlds smallest lab is a mess right now due to finishing up a high end R/C sailplane, but will spend the day cleaning it up,
getting a good sig. gen. out of storage, drag out my power supplies and variac, proto board, Opto Isolater, find a good FET in my junk box,
and I might have some results in a day or two. Due to my limited space, building anything requires removing everything else and setting up what I need for the particular experiment.  A Chinese fire drill!

It's quite amazing what you've been able to do over the years in your 2x4 lab Ben. Makes me smile   each time I see one of your videos

BTW, do you remember what caused that hash spike or ringing at the start of the "rest" period?  Diode (in FET)/switching transient, etc?

Sorry I don't know. BTW, I not claiming there,s anything special to the waveform I've produce other then it looks much like Graham's

All the best in your experiments

Luc

[Spokane1]

I can haz cheezburger now?

Dear TinselKoala,

Graham never once during the presentation, or any time after, claimed to have an OU device. He only presented the fasts as he observed them.

It is I who made the OU assertion when I first started to report on this subject on 7/12/2016. I take full responsibility for possibly miss-representing the true performance of this technology or making any OU statements in the first place.


Your obvious professional expertise in this kind of review is the sort of test that this emergent technology will have to face when this device enters the university standards lab. (give it a year if there are no buyers) I appreciate your observations and comments about the numerous measurement details and potential flaws that you see in this apparatus.

I hope you stick around and keep those spot on observations coming. It will make me pay much closer attention to where and how instruments are connected - especially for documentation. Graham is a measurement freak. You and he could probably talk some pretty heavy shop talk - if he wasn't so wrapped up in this new love affair.

From my applied engineering experience, I figure that the high observed COP's (which may be off somewhat) will provide plenty of head room to cover the losses going to FET drivers and associated house keeping functions. I don't vision this particular device as becoming a commercial product. I see it as a way to possibly understand a new physics that will unlock the secrets of the Gray technology - since the two are very close in my opinion.

If and when we reconstruct a machine that will deliver 7.5 kW (10 HP) at a COP of 282 then discussions of where the power analyzer makes its connections, or accounting for FET driver losses in the measurements will become trivial footnotes. However, I agree these issues are important at this stage.

This is why I'm going full steam in a reproduction and documentation attempt to crack this nut. It probably will not achieve anything at all, but it might, just might provide one missing key for me to advance a truly powerful lost technology.

Spokane1

[Spokane1]

I can haz cheezburger now?

I'll gladly buy you that Cheese Burger if you make out to Spokane some time. My favorite is the Wendy's #2 with Blue Cheese crumbles.