Real Water Power that could be the game changer

[lancaIV]

lumen,three atomic layers level ! Angstroem precision !
This membran works like a thermionic cell array .

Compare this membran with Charles M. Brown "Thermal Electric Chip"  membran
100.000.000.000 diodes per sqcm


http://peswiki.com/directory:charles-m-browns-thermal-electric-chip

[lumen]

lumen,three atomic layers level ! Angstroem precision !
This membran works like a thermionic cell array .

Compare this membran with Charles M. Brown "Thermal Electric Chip"  membran
100.000.000.000 diodes per sqcm


http://peswiki.com/directory:charles-m-browns-thermal-electric-chip

That's always been an interesting idea, but there are several problems where the band gap of each 100,000,000,000 diodes must be exactly the same and it must be very small for a single excited electron to traverse the gap.
One could apply a bias voltage to effectively lower the band gap but again the diodes would all need to be exactly the same or your bias voltage would leak through the diode with the smallest gap and start costing power instead of producing it.

[tinman]

That's always been an interesting idea, but there are several problems where the band gap of each 100,000,000,000 diodes must be exactly the same and it must be very small for a single excited electron to traverse the gap.
One could apply a bias voltage to effectively lower the band gap but again the diodes would all need to be exactly the same or your bias voltage would leak through the diode with the smallest gap and start costing power instead of producing it.

The question is-what could we use as a membrane that would allow the flow of ions,but not the water molecules?-when referring to the system used described in Marks original post.
What waterproof material would allow for ion flow,and is negatively charged?



Brad

[lumen]

I thought a simple osmosis filter membrane like for your faucet.
It might work by increasing the salt in one side as only water can get through.
As the ions increase on one side a charge should also develop, the effect would be the same but from the opposite condition.

Or the old experiment with a simple sheet of sandwich wrap will stop water flow but salt ions will pass through it.

Fill a glass half full of fresh water and place a layer of sandwich wrap in the glass so you can fill the glass full with salt water and it is separated with the plastic sheet.

After an hour you can remove the plastic wrap without losing any salt water and yet the fresh water will taste salty. (osmosis)

[minnie]

   tinman put your brain into gear. Where can I get this material?
  Think about it,a decent fart would be about three atoms thick.
   A million watts is about 1,300 horsepower. Say your cell is 2v
   that would be 500,000 amps.
           John.