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Rotating magnetic fields

Started by Grumpy, November 09, 2006, 11:53:46 AM

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Grumpy

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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Grumpy

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

lightbody

 I'm just going to drop this in here and back away slowly. This is just a link for your refrence files http://www.nr.titech.ac.jp/~htsutsui/study/SMES/
  Babelfish it. It basically deals with SMES (found through google image search of same). Superconductive Magnetic Electrical Storage.
  The idea is to put a current into a SC'ing toroid coil and just let it go round and round, until tapped off for power. They want to put a lot of current in, and the physical forces imparted by the current literally vibrate the torroid apart. You must dig a ditch, line it with concrete and squeeze the coil in there...holding/supporting it tightly. This is no good for a portable unit, so they wind the coil quasi-caduceus style, with two windings, in opposite directions, in order to balance out the forces. Notice that the windings do not cross at 90 deg's like a pure caduceus would. They worked out some other angle of "X" overlap that works better.
  In the images they show you very clearly which way the various forces in a traditionally wound toroid act to flex the structure.  This may be of help in visualizing the dynamics of the physical vibrations some of youze are getting in your TPU's.
  I guess this is just another way to skin a cat, but perhaps a way no one has tried in a TPU? And, if there is a way to get a rotating field from a dc coil, every variation of coil and many variations of current(s) are going to have to be tried.
  Just another one for the 'to-do' box
P.S. Continuing my phi phascination, I'm wodering if the clamied 'perfect damping' of phi is supported by this new 'X' angle...is it a phi-related angle?
http://watermanpolyhedron.com/PHI.html

Grumpy

reminds me of Walter Russell's books on cosmogony and how there are two opposing helical forces...electric current has this same structure.

When I mentioned "phi", I meant the "electrostatic scalar potential".  There is also "E", the "electrostatic vector potential" which is moving and creates the infamous "A-field". 

"phi" is the "time" component of the EM four vector, ala Einstein and friends.

Since the two electric fields can exist without the magnetic fields - they become quite interesting.

EDIT:

For example:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:8g2WVOE_NP0J:farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node44.html+electric+scalar+potential+vector+phi&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

at the end you see:

QuoteThe electric field induced by time-varying magnetic fields is non-conservative, and is described by the magnetic vector potential "A".

Here is a decent image of the fields around a moving sheet of charge.  Keep in mind that the magnetic field of a sheet of charge does not drop off with the square of the distance like the field around a wire does. Also, the A-field does not follow the square fo the distance rule either.
http://physics.nmt.edu/~raymond/classes/ph13xbook/node172.html

(I vaguely understand this.)

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

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