Faraday paradox revisited,magnetic field rotation question.

[gyvulys666]

I think all is very simple.imagine u look to the disc from the top. Your shaft is disc center is one point and other point is disc edge.both these points connected with your battery brushes and during connection current travels the shortest path from center to the edge and i think it creates magnetic field which interacts with magnet and moves the disc.disc movement changes outer edge point position so it means current is created on next radius position which also creates magnetic field which interacts with magnet and rotates further and repeats on next radius . Look at this disc as to some commutator disc with infinite comutation points.   If u solder brushes it means there will be short circuit which also will create magnetic field but this field will be created only in one radius which connects your shaft and outer edge. So conclusion for movement u need constant change of contact points (u need to power one radius then other and other)and when u solder brushes there is no change.

[hartiberlin]

Hi All,I have tried to make a video out of this topic, at least for the start of the topic...So if you want to just listen and watch it, go here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTpOyhp3rnU

it is not yet perfect, I still have to learn this AI powered tool.
Enjoy.
Regards, Stefan.

[nix85]

So question is does field rotate with the magnet.

Let's use deductive logic. As i have written on another topic about Faraday paradox fact is permanent magnet is nothing but many tiny permanent magnets forced side to side, they are all repelling each other. And each of those tiny magnets has certain flux density, certain number of fluxlines (altho some falsely think there is no such thing as fluxlines).

Now, lets start with a situation where we got two disks say 5cm across and they are partially covered with small disk magnets say 5mm wide, all of same polarity, spread out equally and glued in place with gaps between them, say also 5mm, and another disk same thing but opposite poles.

When we look at one such disk alone, we can observe flux is emerging from all those small magnets and returning between them. This is clearly NOT a single field.

If we bring two disks close we can all agree that each small magnet will lock with the opposite polarity magnet on the other disk and turning one disk will turn the other. And when they lock returning flux is still returning between the small magnets, they are simply not compressed enough YET.

Now, let's imagine disk is fully covered with such small 5mm magnets, no gaps, do they still lock, i think they do. And i believe returning flux is still passing between the magnets, altho greately compressed, they still do not really make a single field.

Let's now progressively make those magnets smaller and more closely packed. At some unknown point, when magnets become small enough, returning flux will no longer be able to return between the magnets and at that point we have a truly one field, all flux going in one direction and returning outside of the magnet, NOT between tiny individual magnets.

So...... Unless we assume some unknown transition in properties of the magnetic field happens at the point when one unified field is created, flux does spin with the rotation of the magnet.

I have proposed a possible reason for the fact attracting magnets do not spin one another face to face is the fact those tiny domains are microscopic and very close to each other, quote

"Domains are small (1-100's microns), but much larger than atomic distances. "

So, as one magnet spins fluxlines find it easy to jump and merge with next fluxline, and thus no drag happens. But in case as previous described when they are farther apart when magnets are spinning relative to each other fluxlines first get significantly bent and to merge with the fluxline that is at that moment right on top of them they have to jump back significant distance, multiple milimeters compared to microns in case of microscopic domains. And they do not want to jump great distance so they rather remain locked and impart torque.

[onepower]

The magnetic field does not rotate and the notion that it would is based on another false premise called flux lines or lines of force.

from ChatGPT...
"It's important to note that Faraday's lines of force are not physical entities in themselves. They do not represent tangible objects or actual physical lines in space. Instead, they are a visual representation that allows us to comprehend and analyze the behavior of electric and magnetic fields."

We can see how some tend to build one false premise on top of another.
1)Faraday could not calculate the infinite number of changes in field strength(magnetic field gradient) so he dumbed the concept down into simple lines. Now he just has to count the lines and plug them into a generalized/lumped equation to get a general answer. In effect the concept of field lines was used as a form of notation like North-South, Up-Down or Positive-Negative. These notations are not something tangible but words or symbols used to describe something.

2)Many people were confused by the field line notations and imagined they were real lines. So of course, if the magnet rotates then there imaginary lines must rotate as well. So they built one misunderstanding on yet another misunderstanding which is often the case.

Here's a clue, if we rotate a light bulb on it's vertical axis the light/photons and Electro-Magnetic radiation do not rotate with the light bulb. If the light/EM fields did rotate then the light bulb would drag everything it effected in a circle with it. Light/EM fields which traveled 100 light years would magically start dragging stuff along in a circle with it. Hell, if we wanted to transmit more EM field energy all we would have to do is rotate our vertical antenna, lol.

Magnetic, Electric and Gravitational fields do not rotate nor do any imaginary notation lines associated with them. In fact, this is part of the reason so few have been able to figure out what a field is to date. The field exists in the space exterior to the field source and is independent of it even if we suppose the space to be empty. What Einstein called a "spooky action at a distance".

Here's a clue, the field has some properties similar to a bubble of air under water.
1)We can oscillate the air bubble and pressure waves travel outward in the surrounding water but the bubble does not emit air or water. The waves are a disturbance in the surrounding medium.
2)We can expand/contract or move the air bubble and it produces a disturbance in the water but not if we could rotate the air bubble because it's a uniform spherical pressure gradient.
3)The air bubble is not something but a lack of something, an absence of water. So we need to be careful not to confuse something with a lack of something already present everywhere. Thus, it could be that a field is not something in itself only a displacement of something already present everywhere external to the source.

AC

[nix85]

Don't make claims about things you have no knowledge or understanding of. There MOST DEFINITELY are flux lines aka lines of force and they do bend and rotate with the "source".

As i wrote many times and backed it up with many sources, everything is made of lines of force through which etheric bubbles flow. As Tassel was told by our neighbours from Venus these are electric (male) and magnetic (female) and G axis insulating the two, all 3 at 90° to each other. Electric and magnetic each carrying bubbles of their own kind and where they cross and are allowed to 'mate' particle results. Attached below again.

Same principle of line crossing, substance unifying, particle creating is described in Magic Bag chapter Atman + atom = Adam i also attached many times already and attach it again. It is clearly described how 4 lines of energy cross and 'mate' to create an electron. Etc. To deny there are lines is ultimate foolishness.

I have already given many other examples that show clearly time-space is fundamentally made of network of lines which is as i also wrote many times essentially vibrating spirit - which scattered its attention into myriad of points of awareness forming an infinite network of illusory time-space.

As it was told to real contactee Charles Silva by ET woman and as he reproduced in his book Date with the Gods the fabric of the universe looks like this..

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And another key source i quoted and linked countless times as well is the Iargan Analog Model. Of course, there is no way, no way underlined, that you could 1) recognize that this is 100% true 2) the implications of it in the context of the subject.

Summary with background of the contactee https://vril12.wordpress.com/6-axis-of-time/

Analog Model https://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html

So, space itself is created by 6 time axis aka LINES. And that is the esoteric meaning of star of david, for it is the structure of TIME-space itself - literally so.

I have already also shared countless times another real contactee Lloyd Zirbes and his book UFO Contact from Alcyone and i have written and backed up with diagrams that he confirmed this theory they gave him in abandoned 2000 feet deep mine in the 1960s by dropping various material balls and filming them prior to impact, the formations they make etc. It was firmly established the FALLING BODIES THEORY is true. And among countless other things in this book it is said clearly how when magnetic LINES of force rupture they release neutral bubbles of nothing which are really gravity. Lines lines lines. BTW Parr also used copper pyramids and triangles to cut magnetic lines of force and he managed to produce gravitational field and levitation.

And as it was told to another real contactee Rolf Telano by woman from Venus

"The "electro-magnetic" drive obtains its power by cutting the natural lines of force of a planet. The action is much the same as that of your electrical generators."

And so on and on and on....so ALL sources agree time-space and all fields are fundamentally made of lines of force in which flow bubbles of nothing (ether).

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As for your example of example rotating a light bulb, again WRONG. Tungsten filament is emitting photons in all directions, but emitted radiation greatly depends on orientation of the filament, it will not be exactly the same if we tilt the filament. Better example for what you're trying (but failing) to prove would be a spherical filament, but that again would not prove that field does not spin, again photons are emitted from the surface in all directions and if there is an irregularity in that sphere that would manifest in the radiation pattern.

And no, light/EM fields rotating does not mean the light bulb should drag everything it effected in a circle with it. And light does not travel 100 light years for light is created locally in the upper atmosphere.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/light-and-heat-are-created-in-the-atmospheres/

Likewise for magnets. Magnetic field itself is not uniform, it is always compressed toward the edges of a magnet and not exactly uniform all around. There are slight variations in flux density and that clearly shows when magnet is spun. So if you take a gauss meter (which i had) and you put that probe on the edge of a cylinder magnet and you spin the cylinder, it will vary. Now, if field was not rotating how come gauss reading varies.

Only if we imagine a magnetic field which is perfectly uniform all around as might be created by a coil field would be so uniform no variation could be detected.

Now, as i wrote before, on most fundamental of all levels, nothing spins, for there is nothing for it to spin relative to, it is only the most fundamental field of time axis that does not really rotate, its rotation is an effect created by phase difference between 6 axis of time. And there most definitely are actual lines of force that fill all time-space and secondary fields, Magnetic, Electric and Gravitational fields ARE made of fluxlines and DO rotate.

You most certainly did NOT figure out what a field is, in fact, you are clueless to what time-space is, what gravity, electric, magnetic fields are etc.

You again repeat something i have been saying for years (literally) as if you said it first

"The field exists in the space exterior to the field source and is independent of it even if we suppose the space to be empty. What Einstein called a "spooky action at a distance"."

I wrote like million times already there is but one field, that of TIME-space, and ALL secondary fields are disturbances of this one primary field. And there is no "spooky action at a distance" for there is no such thing as "distance", what to you appears as two distant points on this level are overlapping on higher levels and are one at the Source.

Then you foolishly write "So we need to be careful not to confuse something with a lack of something already present everywhere." and "field is not something present everywhere external to the source", altho i have been saying for years here over and over again time-space is water-like and "particles" on most fundamental level are little voids in this most dense of all mediums. I have been writing about "bubbles of nothing" unceasingly. I spoke countless times how they join in little whirls based on condensing factor 49 to form larger particles all the way to atoms etc, for all is fractal, self-similar on all levels. I have been saying countless times that larger etheric particles and atoms have a pulsation like a heart (written clearly in Thesophy and Magic Bag chapter i attach again) which creates ripples in the surrounding ether and the spherical pressure gradient you speak of i have spoken about countless times over and over and over again. Also, field is not only external to the "source" but permeates it, and again what you call "source" is NOT a source but a CONSEQUENCE - A RESULT of higher order field condensing it in the center by LINE CROSSING. For no particle can exist on this plane unless it is FIRST created on higher plane which condenses ether of this plane around the more subtle pattern, i explained all this but it all flies over your head.

All your 3 "points" are literally copy-paste of things i have been saying for years.

I quoted Zirbes and Adamski who say this exact same thing. I wrote many times already that Zirbes says Earth's outer magnetic lines of flux move at C+ which makes them break and as they break they release a ripple of nothing, a bubble the size of a planet which repels all around it. Adamski says a similar thing in Flying saucer farewell

"To understand more clearly the magnetic propulsion of interplanetary spacecraft, we must first consider geomagnetism, the magnetic sphere of influence which surrounds every planet and every sun, filling all space. We can liken Earth's geomagnetic field to the series of circular ripples created by dropping a pebble into a pond. These circular ripples move outward from the center point where the pebble was dropped; expanding in size, but diminishing in force as they move. If we simultaneously drop two pebbles into the pond, several feet apart, two sets of expanding circular waves are created, moving outward from each central point. Where the wave fronts meet, an interference pattern is formed which extends between the two center points. This interference pattern assumes the shape of an extended ellipse, with its smaller ends at the points where the pebbles were dropped. Although both wave fronts have diminished in force as they traveled outward from their central points, the interference pattern has combined a portion of both forces to create a third force, which remains constant between the two central point's so long as they remain active. The same relationship exists between the expanding spheres of magnetic influence which move into space from the sun, and from each planet or satellite. As these magnetic wave fronts expand from another source, they form a magnetic interference pattern which again assumes the general shape of an extended ellipse. Although the geomagnetic field of each planet or sun diminishes in strength as it moves spaceward, the elliptical magnetic fields thus created between celestial bodies by magnetic interferences maintain a constant strength magnetic field between the bodies. A planet's magnetic field is similar to "direct current," which grows weaker as it travels from its source; however, the elliptical magnetic field shared by two planets may be likened to "alternating current," which can be transmitted over long distances. These alternating elliptical fields, extending from sun to planet, and from planet to planet, are the invisible bonds which balance the Solar System. They extend in similar fashion between systems, and between galaxies. They also exist between the micro-magnetic fields of atoms, the "miniature solar systems." The "end zones" of elliptical fields which influence Earth extend from about 58 degrees north latitude to 58 degrees south latitude. The axis of each elliptical field is at right angles to the magnetic polar axis, and the elliptical field axis corresponds to Earth's magnetic equator. The "magnetic rivers" between planets constantly alternate or change their direction of flow, creating a two-way magnetic pulse between planets. By using only one half of each two-way pulse, space liners move in one direction. For example, if the spacecraft uses only an outward pulse, it moves away from a planet. If the ship uses an inward pulse, it moves toward a planet. If the spacecraft allows the alternating pulse to flow through it in both directions, it can hover."

The key of your error, is that you assume that time-space 'water' has no line-structure to it. TIME-space 'water' IS a superdense network of EM LINES of force and lower order/secondary field lines like gravitic electric and magnetic are disturbances in this underlying field. Everything in the creation is spinning, from super-universal-clusters made of many universes, to galaxies, to planets, to atoms to etheric atoms.

Again, as Tassel describes Earth's gravity (as told to him by our brothers from Venus)

"In order to present the one principle which causes all things to be, let us use the symbol "G" to signify what is commonly referred to as God. Let us use "A" to symbolize the right hand of God, or the positive polarity, projective, male force of unbalanced energy. Let us use "B" as the sign of negative polarity, receptive, female energy, or the left hand of God. Assume that God, who rested after the creation of all things, is the still fulcrum of Intelligence throughout all infinity that serves as the balance between these opposites. For an objective point of view, assume that the "G" line is vertical to the plane of the paper. Assume that the "A" line is on the paper, running crosswise at 90' to the vertical "G" line. This "A" line of force is composed of positively charged particles. Assume that the "B" line is running from the top to the bottom of the paper, at 90' to the "A" line and 90' to the "G" line. This "B" line of force is composed of negatively charged particles. Where these lines cross there is an atom, a micro solar system, created in perfection by these unseen forces. The atomic element is determined by the substances present in the charged "A" and "B" lines. This evolves a nucleus of positively charged particles called a proton, surrounded by a field of negative orbits set up by the "B" particles in motion. The concentrated group of "B" particles in this orbit we call an electron. The "G" line has no motion as to movement in a given direction. It extends infinitely throughout all space, through all substances and materials. It exists in what we term both light and darkness. These lines are parallel to each other. Atoms compose all things. "G" light is found in the composition of all atoms. "G" light is Creative Intelligence. Our Earth is an electron of our Sun, traveling in its orbit of a negative field. It is rotated by the band width of "A" and "B" light forces, equal to the Earth's diameter. Prior to the formation of individual atoms, the "A" and "B" lines of light force had to contain the correct amount of substance particles. For clarification let us revert down to a single line of "A" and "B" lines of force. These two lines of oppositely charged light cross each other at 90º, insulated by the "G" lines of infinite Intelligence. They cannot be brought into induction where they cross unless they are mated. In order to give birth to an atom of Hydrogen, the "A" and "B" lines must conform to species. The law reads "each after its own kind". The "B" must contain the same number of particles per inch as the "A" does. These particles must also vibrate at the same frequency. In order to become Hydrogen both lines of light must conform to the vibratory frequency of Hydrogen in the spectrum. The vibratory frequency of each element is different. The Hydrogen particles vibrating in their own frequency in the light lines before they become an atom cannot mix with the frequency of any other element. This makes them of like species in every respect except they are of opposite polarity. This opposition of charge brings them together, and the "G" light allows them to mate by induction because they are equal opposites. The density of each element is determined by the frequency of the vibrating particles in both the "A" and "B" lines of force. Each atomic element is the result of perfect proportion, charge, and vibration in equal and opposite polarities. Thus an atom of Hydrogen is the same wherever it is found in the universe. Let us proceed to simplify the complex. Picture an onion cut in two. An onion is like an atom, the outside layer or shell being the negative field of orbit for the outermost electron. The next layer and each alternate layer toward the center being composed of Intelligence, the insulating layer of infinite light force called the "G" line of light. When you crack an atom, the force disturbing or puncturing the outer shell creates unbalance and neutralizes the outer shell. This causes the outermost electron to be attracted to the positive proton in the center. However, before the electron reaches the proton the instantaneous inrush of "G" light force through the fractured outer shell creates implosive pressures within the atom. This is the active force that brings about the explosion when the electron and proton discharge within the ruptured shell. The insulating "G" light condenses into what science has named a neutrino. This potent causation force immediately deserts its wrecked atom and takes off to return to the thirteenth density. This is what religion would term a "resurrection"; when the potent, causal, infinite, light force deserts its shell or body. God in His infinite Wisdom caused all of His creations to function by perpetual motion. He maintains the balance by centering each creation and insulating each one from all others. When He created the "A" lines of light force, He caused to be 1850 of them to a square centimeter. He gave them positive polarity, male, projective gender, a speed of 186,000 miles per second, and matter in the form of charged particles. In opposition to the "A" lines of light force He created the "B" lines. The "B" lines are 1257 per square centimeter. They cross between the "A" lines of force at 90' with a speed of 202,000 miles per second. Their polarity is negative, their gender is female, receptive. Between the "breathing" of these two primary forces, He created rhythm. This brings about a "wave motion", which consolidates the individual lines into "bands". When "A" works inward, "B" works forward; and when "A" works outward, "B" works backward. Rhythm, which establishes the "bands, levels, and density changes", is operated by strain or desire. Strain is the time between the "flight" of the female, negative lines of force and "the pursuit" of the male, positive lines of force. When they encounter any created object that was "born" before by other "A" and "B" lines of light, they add to its rotation by spiral induction and partial penetration. The negative "B" lines are attracted to the Earth's positive core, but are resisted by the "G" light insulation strata. Having penetrated the negative crust, they are repelled by it and take the line of least resistance, which is out of the North Pole. By induction, they attracted the positive core to rotate in one direction, and in being repelled helped the negative crust to rotate in the opposite direction. The "A" positive lines of force work opposite to the foregoing, and are emitted at the South Pole. As they emit from the poles they are met by the "A" and "B" lines of light that are passing uninterrupted by the planet and bent back to their original course. The resistance in bending causes the aurora.As they have reduced their energy charge and speed of motion in adding power to the planet, they enter different levels as they emerge from the poles. Then the "G" lines of light, crossing between them and insulating them, brings them back through "rest" and "rhythmic breathing" to their original conditions. The "A" lines of force have more quantity "density" and less speed than the "B" lines of force. The "B" lines have more speed and less "density". This is the reason why the "A" positive lines of force, charged with matter, become the proton core of the Earth. The faster "B" charged matter becomes the crust of our planet. This strain or desire is the eternal progressive spirit in all things that manifest action. Strain in people is called desire. When the desire exceeds the limits of capacity, the Father's agents of balance-the "A" or "B" lines of force-will bring about an opposite result. The "G", "A", and "B" lines are the "Us" referred to in the Bible (Gen. 1: 26) when God said, "Let us make man"."

So clearly, field lines are coming into the Earth, are bent outward and out of the poles where they are bent again to make the round again.

So, not only do field lines exist and spin WITH the Earth, they SPIN the Earth in the first place and this is LITERALLY what Oahspe says too, etheric vortex aka vortexia which manifested the Earth in its center to begin with is also spinning it at constant speed as it itself spins.

To take for an example the theosophical Anu which may be called sub-quarks attached below, fundamental particles of each plane, it is essentially a gravity field we're looking at, twisted electromagnetic lines of force. These particles, as i wrote countless times, are said to have rotation and pulsation like a heart. We can imagine them to look something like this up close (and Adepts can see them like this without help of any apparatus).

https://i.gifer.com/3nff.gif

And model of the universe according to what was shown to Bentov.

"A different kind of Bang"

https://youtu.be/KMbeK_6ATxQ?t=4156

And again, as i wrote countless times all over this forum, what appears to be a particle is a pattern made of tiny voids, tiny bubbles of nothing in this superdense forcefield made of superdense EM lines of force, alternating +- charges. Endless rivers of these tiny bubbles flow in every point of timespace along these perpendicular lines and when they are resisted and slowed down they form the observable fields, namely gravitational, magnetic and electric.

And, as also explained before, TIME-space itself is literally a 6-phase synchronous motor.

There are most definitely field lines for ALL is composed of them and lines do spin.