Faraday paradox revisited,magnetic field rotation question.

[PolaczekCebulaczek]

obviously the magnet could not rotate for one minute let alone hours if any charges moved generating eddy currents but it did.

yes, there is no current in plate and no drag when only mag spins, lets say that test charge experiment is flawed  - no E field from spinning magnet so field does not rotate with magnet ,if so than there should be current inducted in plate/coil when magnet AND plate /coil are rotating  together on axis ,did you tried that? ALSO what about Depalma N machine? how does it work?  well, I see two options:

1.Magnet is conductive(iron,neo) so if field is stationary and magnet spins ; current is inducted inside metal body of magnet and can be taken by the brushes (flow from edge to center of magnet) in this case, magnet rotating alone in free space should experience a drag?

2.If field is rotating with magnet than field cuts stationary conductor - the brushes with wires and current flows through brushes, wire and conductive metal magnet.

only one option is true.

things may be different with CERAMIC magnets, they existed in faraday times? I don't think so.

[lumen]

I see two options:

1.Magnet is conductive(iron,neo) so if field is stationary and magnet spins ; current is inducted inside metal body of magnet and can be taken by the brushes (flow from edge to center of magnet) in this case, magnet rotating alone in free space should experience a drag?

2.If field is rotating with magnet than field cuts stationary conductor - the brushes with wires and current flows through brushes, wire and conductive metal magnet.

only one option is true.

Are those the only two choices?

3. In a constant magnetic field (like the rotating axis of a magnet) there is nothing to retain the position in the constant field direction as there is in a varying field, so the field will slide if forced to.

What that means is when the disk is spinning above the magnet any attempt to form currents in the plate also produce an opposing magnetic field.
The opposing field in the disk will simply slide the uniform field from the magnet doing no work but leaving the field spinning, but adding another stationary disk will simply slide the field again leaving a stationary field.

In a Faraday generator, the field is trapped between two connected conductors moving different directions and the uniform field cannot simply slide but must cross one, or more likely both, of these conductors.
That is why it becomes possible to produce current in the uniform field.

[Floor]

(quote from PolaczekCebulaczek)
"1.Magnet is conductive(iron,neo) so if field is stationary and magnet spins ; current is inducted inside metal body of magnet and can be taken by the brushes (flow from edge to center of magnet) in this case, magnet rotating alone in free space should experience a drag?"
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Electrically conductive or not, does a secondary / exterior magnetic field, induce a current inside a permanent magnet ?
Wouldn't the permanent magnet's own internal magnetic field prevent, or at least greatly reduce that current ?

                       Floor

[lumen]

I wonder if any results could be seen if an electroscope were used to test if charges are moved by a rotating uniform magnetic field.

One could rotate a large cylinder magnet on a horizontal axis with an electroscope just above it and the charges should move up or down the conductor depending on the rotation direction.

Electroscopes are easy to build.

[PolaczekCebulaczek]

The opposing field in the disk will simply slide the uniform field from the magnet doing no work but leaving the field spinning, but adding another stationary disk will simply slide the field again leaving a stationary field.

i dont understand what you are trying to tell me, probably because i'm retarded maybe if i could see an animated version of whats is happening there...

Wouldn't the permanent magnet's own internal magnetic field prevent, or at least greatly reduce that current ?

that's the good question, I think that Lorentz force can't stop it, but who knows? if field is not rotating with magnet and inducing current in magnet's conductive body so magnet should experience a drag? OR perhaps not?? because current's magnetic field will oppose magnet stationary field (Lenz) but magnet will rotate without drag? just thinking...

One could rotate a large cylinder magnet on a horizontal axis with an electroscope just above it and the charges should move up or down the conductor depending on the rotation direction.

yes yes, this is what i'm working on right now, I just need to find big ceramic magnet ( need to test non conductive ceramic and conductive iron magnets) this is the electroscope electronic version, what do you think about that? http://amasci.com/emotor/chargdet.html

so in the end this is the setup: