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New proposed design for RegenX

Started by Over Goat, August 12, 2016, 05:36:14 PM

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Over Goat

Quote from: Dog-One on August 13, 2016, 03:31:36 AM
It strikes me as an advanced version of Jim Murray's Transforming Generator.  Also a variation of the old dynamotor.

Having a hard time seeing any obvious flaws in the design.  It looks to me like if there is current in the rotor, you've
got rotation; what you do with that current while it's in there is up to you.  With the right kind of load on the
regenerative power output coils, I can see how a condition might be setup to cause an increase in current in the
rotor, which would obviously cause acceleration.  Except, this is a synchronous motor.

From my understanding of these types of devices, you can add current to whatever is already there and it's purely
current that is creating the magnetic force.  So if the load continues to push current back into the rotor at just the
right moments, the motor torque increases, but to truly accelerate you need the prime power source to increase in
frequency, otherwise...

I guess you would push power back to the source, which isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as you can take
advantage of it.

so if it doesn't accelerate the rotor, and all it does is harvest back EMF from the work already done by the
conventional rotor? The harvested power is returned to the batteries.   Then you would have just a super efficient conventional electric motor, no?


Over Goat

Quote from: Erfinder on August 13, 2016, 05:28:33 AM

Electric motor which does no mechanical work?  There is no means for coupling to the rotor mechanically,  according to the drawing.....

its a collapse diagram,
the drawing is showing the machine unscrewed and partially dismantled, with the outer casing pulled back and away.
the way I see it, this electric motor could be  just standard motor with a back-EMF-harvesting system attached to one end of it.
So it might not accelerate under load. Instead it might just generate electricity and the generated electric output cycled back to the batteries.

this thing obviously screws together over top of the inner core.

It's just a modified standard electric motor with special back- EMF harvesting coils
over the very end of the rotor:

Grumage

Quote from: Erfinder on August 13, 2016, 05:28:33 AM

Electric motor which does no mechanical work?  There is no means for coupling to the rotor mechanically,  according to the drawing.....

Dear Erfinder.

It appears to me that the " Squirrel cage " rotor is an extended/modified  version and a second stator case would be directly coupled to the drive casing.

This wouldn't be something the average " Joe " could engineer IMHO.

Cheers Grum.

minnie




  Just a quick thought,have you considered the efficiency of an induction motor to start with?
  For a small HP. motor you're looking at mid 70%,when you get to 200HP. you can get into
  the mid 90%range.It's a hell of a burden to start off with!
        John.

Over Goat

Quote from: Erfinder on August 13, 2016, 07:00:40 AM

I appreciate what you're saying, and also what the drawing suggests, however, if the motor were operated correctly, there would be no need for a second stator.  Many have figured that out over the years, but have stagnated at key areas.  99 percent of the available energy is not being harvested, and I am not referring to so-called "recovered", I am referring specifically to all instances where energy is generated, as per Faraday and Lenz. 
Regards

there must be some new aspect to this , then. There is no electrical supply to the second (red) stator.
So its not really a 'second stator', then. ( Because the first [yellow] stator has a wired power supply[power input] going into it.)
What if the spinning rotor is wirelessly charging the red coils? The charge is then collected by the battery, and it puts out more power than it consumes.