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InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?

Started by hartiberlin, October 31, 2016, 08:35:37 PM

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markdansie

Hi TomD
1. In South Australia the issue was with the power distribution grid, the larger towers holding the lines blew over. The micro grids being installed now with battery packs will assist in over coming these issues.
2. The large Port Augusta cola fired power station will be decommissioned in the next 2 years. The natural gas power stations will still operate. In fact during certain days last year South Australia was 100% powered by solar and wind and the excess from the gas turbines were sold to Victoria.
3. Over 20% of South Australian houses have solar (and save a lot of money ) and over 33% of there power is now renewable and growing fast. I agree storage is needed taht is why the uptake of batetries is set to tripple this year.


The real game changer of course is getting a cheap storage device,.


Electric cars do not have solar panels on them. The recharging stations do or the power to recharge them can be directed from solar or wind installations. Many car manufacturers like Tesla , GM are releasing affordable electric cars in a similar price range to normal combustion engines. As battery technologies improve the cost of an electric vehicle will be lower than the combustion engine counter part. Already in some countries electric cars have reach 20% of total car sales and expected to climb in most other countries in the next 5 years.


It is important to be factual when making statements, not relying on hearsay and half-truths. There is a mountain of information out there on these topics, reports and statistics.


It has been well established in many countries already that solar and wind power is cheaper than coal. China just announced the scrapping of over 100 partially completed or proposed coal fired power stations.


It is true grid storage costs need to come down, and once they do game over for the grid as we know it.


PS where are the SGS test results?????????


Kind Regards
Mark

tomd

The only copy of the SGS report I could find which is still available on the internet is embedded in this document: http://www.ostfalia.de/export/sites/default/de/pws/turtur/images/3_Beispiel-Gerxte.pdf.

Start reading at page 8.

markdansie

Quote from: tomd on February 13, 2017, 10:59:29 PM
The only copy of the SGS report I could find which is still available on the internet is embedded in this document: http://www.ostfalia.de/export/sites/default/de/pws/turtur/images/3_Beispiel-Gerxte.pdf.

Start reading at page 8.
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Thanks for that.
SGS did not test it running for overunity, they just confirmed the instruments used were working correctly.


I recall once when going to Africa to test a magnetic motor TUV had authenticated it. (23 page report) That was up until we found the hidden wire powering it lol) Sometime engineers and scintists need to have a little experience in these matters as they are not use to dealing with the con artists


Kind Regards
Mark

tomd

They may not have tested for overunity. But that's what the test results are saying.

Your experience in South Africa doesn't automatically put all free energy technologies in the same basket.

In the case of InnovaTechno they were/are offering a trial period of 30 days before any payment is required. Why would they do that if their intention was to scam money?

markdansie

Hi again
I look forward to your analysis of the test results. test results that are not independently tested or have not been peer reviewed.


I totally agree with you about my experience in South Africa should taint or be generalized to other testing. I was just pointing out caution needs to be exercised. Having reviewed hundreds of claims over many years you would be surprised by the extent some people will go to to decieve.


However the vast majority are honest people and just have measured something wrong or mis-interpreted the data. There are many good people (a lot are my friends) researching this area.


In this case it does not appear to be a financial scam on the surface, I have seen many people fake things just for their 10 minutes of fame. Their have been many famous examples of that over the years, some recorded in these very pages (look up Mylow). I am still figuring out what motivates these people.


The scam itself or sting may occur latter , I have seen cases like these before every thing is free, then the call comes requesting some money for whatever reason. One of the biggest was the mggmotor out of Canada. People paid their deposits over 6 years ago never receiving anything. Just look back to the last two years at the Gaia gravity,buoyancy claims and the people who paid in full or a large deposit and still have not received deleivery.


I support research and many of the people working in this field, but given the track record of free energy claims and to date I am not aware (apart from LENR) of any devices that have past independent testing or been able to be commercialized. I am always hoping and wanting to be corrected or proved wrong.


Kind Regards
Mark