Magnets, motion and measurement

[ayeaye]

Floor, you and Citfta continue your work, and i would say the measurements show overunity. But this magnetic shield device has an even greater problem of friction, moving the shield magnet forth and back is moving a long distance, and in spite it looks very little friction, when measured, it may be more than the positive energy. And, it is very difficult to make a continuously moving device based on that, and when done, this would add friction even much more. Your linearly moving device on ball bearings is also difficult to make, my device requires only one ball bearing, which currently is one of the computer fan.

But we deal with the same, consider that, that's all due to the asymmetry of the magnetic field.

[norman6538]

Ayeaye mentioned the long distance and that is exactly what I have found to be the biggest reason for efficiency less than 200%-300% because distance is a factor of the work out equation. While offline I made a list of my attempts and why they failed and distance was most frequent.

My wife had a long and successful surgery but I'm still dizzy and have to go to bed for several hours to get going some days but through all of this I have never fallen and some parts of the day are functional enough to get something small done like move the grass.

I have plans to resume my work any day unless we are able to travel for Thanksgiving for 6 days with family. I will use a variable lever/compensator to balance/compensate for the non linear attraction of the metal to repelling magnets to also compensate for the longer distance that the metal has to travel like Floor's machine.

I have felt for some time that a combination of the right things will made OU happen. The Finsrud device is an example of that with the ball and magnet and pendulum and gravity pushing the magnet down and kicking the pendulum.

I drool when I see Floor's precision device.

Peace to all. Life is not the same after you have been through serious medical trials.

Norman

[ayeaye]

See the figure below, how can the shield magnet shield by the Coulomb model? By the Coulomb model a magnet is just two poles, both with a perfectly spherical field. And this is the only model that is symmetric. Say that the vertical N-S there is the shield magnet. You see that by that model there is nothing in between the north poles of two magnets, thus no shielding. When there is shielding, and evidently there is, then the fields must be somehow asymmetric, that is the fields of the poles must be different from spherical.

Ah, i'm sorry, this was not the shield magnet, the Citfta's was like this, was it?

S            S
     N  S
N            N

Anyway, you get an idea, in the Coulomb model there is nothing in between the repelling poles.

[kolbacict]

Here you go. the magnet is under the plate in the same position as the second row.
Only I still do not understand anything.

[ayeaye]

Here you go. the magnet is under the plate in the same position as the second row.

On the figure 2, the poles of your magnet are up and down? If so, you have some asymmetry at the upper end there, see the field is stronger at the sides, and there are less field lines at the center, that go up.

This banana shape on figure 1 may also provide field lines more close together at the right side, than at the left side, but you use there too much iron filings, for it to be seen.

Try with something, a small iron object. You may feel that it attracts more where the field lines are more closer together, than where they are not.

All i can say. Really any shape provides some asymmetry, that is difference from spherical. Like rectangle, at its corners the field lines are more apart, different from spherical where they should all go radially from the center of the pole, with equal distances between them.