TD replications

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Thanks GoTo Luk

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Re: TD replications
« Reply #276 on: February 29, 2020, 09:04:09 PM »

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I think the main problem with TD is that its using weight which it lifts
for the resetting itself.
So, if you use part of the weight going down for the external work, the resetting will be affected.

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If  Newtons observations are valid (they seem to be)....  Then it should require some thing like
115 grams on the RO (over 44 degrees of travel ? if I am remembering correctly)  to lift the 105 grams on SL by 22 degrees on the SL.... and It does this in the videos.  Work in > work out... in reverse.

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SL input really only needs about 80 grams (average force) if / when input weight is changed / integrated over the 22 degrees approach of SL toward RO, while the 115 grams RO is simultaneously lifted.  But RO does lift 105 grams by that 22 degrees SL, does it not ?

It surly is a curious device...

If input on SL is returned when the SL weight falls back to its start position, are we not, getting that input back ?  Zero net input ?

What then is, the RO ? Output ?  Is RO output, even if is self cancels / undoes ?  After all, the input
also self cancels / is gotten back doesn't it ?   Or is the input  (SL) gotten back + more ?

Who knows ?  Only an actual replicator / precise replicator knows for sure.....

Something's moving.

An aside...

By closing the gap (while sliding) to very near to zero (less gap than I  typically demonstrate), I have gotten the RO to lift 130 grams.

That increase to 130 grams also means the RO hangs at / balances with SL to RO force, at about 50 degrees RO, while SL is at 22 degrees distance  (SL).

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"But RO does lift 105 grams by that 22 degrees SL, does it not ?"
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NO it doesn't.

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Or is the input  (SL) gotten back + more ?
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NO it isn't.

Still, there is some thing elegant about the the T.D. interactions.  Like the long duration of a pendulums' swinging, elegant.  Although, if we draw energy off that swing we directly reduce it.

The T.D. is a little like worm drive gears, but this analogy doesn't fit exactly.  There is no physical
/ mechanical / rigid linkage between RO and SL.

The T.D. is a little like two pulleys sharing a common axle.  One pulley having twice the diameter of the other pulley.  The larger diameter pulley weight string, loaded with 1/2 the weight of the smaller pulley.

But this isn't a good fit either, because in the pulley scenario, the combined weight  / mass / inertia of the weight objects, is 3 times the weight of the weight which hangs upon the larger pulley (the LONG side of the lever).   

In the T.D. scenario the the combined weight  / mass / inertia of the weight objects, is a little more than 2 times the weight of the weight which hangs upon the SL unit (the SHORT side of the lever).

Up to this point, perhaps the most valuable / clearly understood (by me) thing I have gotten out of the T.D., has been the concept of force neutralization by creation of a near balance between attracting and repelling forces.

Thanks much for the keen observations / critique.

    best wishes
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