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TD replications

Started by Floor, November 18, 2016, 11:14:23 AM

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dieter

Yeah, sorry, I must have mixed up something.

Cairun

Quote from: gotoluc on February 16, 2017, 12:03:47 PM

I'm contemplating on a series (cascade effect) for the next build.
If there is a gain, it should be obvious then


Hi Luc,

When you say "a series build" do you mean you will link multiply systems together? Just curious.
I am looking forward to your next build.

I am developing a mechanism to capture the "stop and go" motion of your setup and use it in a "two bicycle wheel" setup,
since continuous rotation ultimately is going to be the most efficient.  A linear sliding setup should work as well. One way
to capture the motion of the magnets is to create cam followers to follow two separate tracks to create the "stop and go" motion.

Keep up the great work!
Alex


gotoluc

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your interest.         

Quote from: Cairun on February 21, 2017, 09:19:24 AM
When you say "a series build" do you mean you will link multiply systems together? Just curious.

Yes, they are linked to multiply in a way.
The idea is, if there's a gain, then the first unit can be calibrated to use its gain to operate the polarity flip slider of the second unit. That way all the output of the second unit is free to use or to re-use to operate a 3rd unit and so on.
Each unit or stage should be able to have 50% more magnet surface area causing an exponential torque amplification as the stages are added.
This is the idea but at this point only a theory since it hasn't been built or tested.

Quote from: Cairun on February 21, 2017, 09:19:24 AM
I am developing a mechanism to capture the "stop and go" motion of your setup and use it in a "two bicycle wheel" setup,
since continuous rotation ultimately is going to be the most efficient.  A linear sliding setup should work as well. One way
to capture the motion of the magnets is to create cam followers to follow two separate tracks to create the "stop and go" motion.

Glad to see someone working on this!

Regards

Luc

Floor

A little comic relief that just might floor you ,
I hope its not out of place.

.....................................
If one seeks proof of perpetual motion....
One need only to look to the length of men's arguments upon that subject.  :)
........................
Conservation of momentum is the most critical aspect of most over unity designs .....

This is because ...
most designs, rely upon momentum as their  primary energy source. ;)
..........................
          Some say that
Playing with magnets is like a rocking chair, while
it gives a person something to do, it gets them no where !
          further more
Magnets are dangerous !  If two or more are swallowed, their attraction
can pinch right through an organ !

I have even heard magnets referred to as    "the devils junk"   by some.

So ... my suggestions ares
                  don't play with the devils junk
                        and especially ......
                  never let the devil put his junk into your mouth.

                          floor

Cairun

Quote from: gotoluc on February 21, 2017, 11:34:38 AM

Yes, they are linked to multiply in a way.
The idea is, if there's a gain, then the first unit can be calibrated to use its gain to operate the polarity flip slider of the second unit. That way all the output of the second unit is free to use or to re-use to operate a 3rd unit and so on.
Each unit or stage should be able to have 50% more magnet surface area causing an exponential torque amplification as the stages are added.
This is the idea but at this point only a theory since it hasn't been built or tested.


Luc and Floor,

Your cascade setup sounds very exciting.  I hope it will work as expected.

Upon playing more with the ceramic magnets, I realized that continuous rotation may not be achievable with your setup.
The output magnet seems to only do positive work in the 11 mm stroke(maybe a tiny bit more than 11mm), and as it moves further than 11mm it enters into attraction mode which essentially creates a sticky spot.  Unless I am setting up my magnets in the wrong way.  Can you confirm this or let me know what I may be doing wrong?

I've completed my conceptual design on the "stop and go" mechanism, but I still need to figure out some of the mathematical relationships.  I will post pictures or a video of the concept when I have it in a presentable form.

Regards,
Alex