TD replications

[Nonlinear]

Luc,

You have said in one of your posts, that you don't have sufficient knowledge of mechanics to correctly calculate the energy efficiency of your devices. You have also asked for help in this regard. Here is the assistance you were looking for; see the attached files.

I have integrated the work, both the input and the output, and calculated the efficiency of the device. If your measurement data is correct, then the coefficient of performance is COP=161.3%.

This would be quite impressive, and I could design a generator on this idea, but I have doubts about the validity of your results. For example when you are taking the first measurement, then the slider magnet is completely under the wheel, is that correct? Then as you pull the rotor magnet over the slider there is a repulsive force between them. So far so good. Then when the slider is released and shifted to the farthest position from the rotor, then you continue measuring the force required to pull the rotor away from the bottom position. What does not make sense to me is that you are now measuring an attractive force between the magnets, even though I would expect a repulsive force to persist.

A repulsive force existed between the magnets until the rotor covered the slider, and the repulsive force made the slider move away. This same repulsive force supposed to still exist (even though smaller) while you are pulling the rotor away from above the slider. Which means that during the second half of the measurement the magnets supposed to perform work, and you supposed to push the rotor (not pull) during the measurement.

Can you please cast some light on the exact procedure of measurement, polarities of magnets and preferably dimensions as well? Thanks. Great workmanship!

[Floor]

@Nonlinear

Gotoluc has several videos up on various of these magnet interactions.
Watching the set of these short videos should give you a comfortable
understanding of the interactions.   It can take some time to gain familiarity
with the configurations.

There are 7 videos here by "seethisvid" that give some explanations of the
magnet's polar alignments, motions and resulting force vectors.



http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5an8hd_rtangsld2_tech
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5d7hdv_lucs-1_tech
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5d7ip9_lucs-2_tech

Also there are some drawings and a pdf file, upon the previous pages of this topic

          floor

[Floor]

@Nonlinear

I don't think Luc has stated the dimensions of the magnets he is using,
but I have assumed... that they are the same as those I have been using ?

     see this link below

http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/msg489791/#msg489791

                   Thanks for the conversions to newtons / joules
                      best wishes
                            floor

[shylo]

do the work at the bench and you will see there is more than what were told to look at.
You can build a rotor that has a cam that moves the force of the magnet attached to move in and out,
But it will find balance, inject an offset to that balance , at the proper time.
You won't get free power, but you can get it down to the point where it is virtually free.
Just what I've seen so far.
artv

[gotoluc]

Luc,

You have said in one of your posts, that you don't have sufficient knowledge of mechanics to correctly calculate the energy efficiency of your devices. You have also asked for help in this regard. Here is the assistance you were looking for; see the attached files.

I have integrated the work, both the input and the output, and calculated the efficiency of the device. If your measurement data is correct, then the coefficient of performance is COP=161.3%.

This would be quite impressive, and I could design a generator on this idea, but I have doubts about the validity of your results. For example when you are taking the first measurement, then the slider magnet is completely under the wheel, is that correct? Then as you pull the rotor magnet over the slider there is a repulsive force between them. So far so good. Then when the slider is released and shifted to the farthest position from the rotor, then you continue measuring the force required to pull the rotor away from the bottom position. What does not make sense to me is that you are now measuring an attractive force between the magnets, even though I would expect a repulsive force to persist.

A repulsive force existed between the magnets until the rotor covered the slider, and the repulsive force made the slider move away. This same repulsive force supposed to still exist (even though smaller) while you are pulling the rotor away from above the slider. Which means that during the second half of the measurement the magnets supposed to perform work, and you supposed to push the rotor (not pull) during the measurement.

Can you please cast some light on the exact procedure of measurement, polarities of magnets and preferably dimensions as well? Thanks. Great workmanship!

Thanks Nonlinear for taking the time to verify my calculation and present your data.

I made a video for you in hopes of making the process clearer to understand .

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6sbIgr2L8A

Please feel free to ask questions if needed

Regards

Luc