Running a car on water - it may not be about the hydrogen!

[Firebrand1]

Running a car on water is the hope of many people in the alternative community and I'm no different. People have studied Stan Meyers tech and replicated it with varying degrees of success, the Waterfuelcell demands a skilled level of craftsmanship – 316 L stainless steel pipes have to tuned inner and outer and all pipes in a cell must all be tuned – no easy task then the electronics must be built and if installing in a car an alternator must be married to the system, the frequency of the pulsating coil must match all the tuned pipes, the pipes must be conditioned for a long period of time, then there is the issue of maintaining resonance – is there not? It's all quite demanding but will such a system produce the varying amount of HHO gas needed for a varying engine speed? Has anyone had success with the Water Injector Plug that Stan developed also?
Is a car running 100 % on water running on hydrogen? In the Waterfuelcell it probably is but what about a standard electrolyser that assists in improving mpg, the Browns gas researcher George Wiseman states there is an exotic component of standard electrolysers gas output which he calls Electrical Expanded Water which is neither steam or HHO gas, it is heavier than air, it can be identified by filling two empty pop bottles (say 2 liters) with Browns Gas, this is done by filling the bottles with water and putting the outlet pipe from a Browns gas (HHO) generator to fill the inverted bottles under water, place both bottles upright, take your thumb off the mouth off one bottle and apply a flame immediately – a loud bang is heard and the bottle is collapsed. The second bottle has its cap remove and allowed to sit for ten minutes then a flame is applied now a whoof sound is heard – this is an implosion reaction of the Electrically Expanded Water as the hydrogen has left the bottle soon after the cap is removed, it is this component of Browns gas that contributes to the much improved mpg (there is also hydrogen produced and it contributes also but to a lesser extent. Anyone interested in seriously running a car on water should be familiar with Patrick Kelly's    free - energy – info.co.uk  chap 10
On page 138 Patrick describes Archie Blue's generator which looks somewhat similar to a standard one except it has circular plates with holes, the plates are wired in parallel! rather than the expected series,  a central pipe is positioned so as to allow air out of the bottom of the generator and dislodge the clinging Browns gas bubbles but also to fulfil the much more important role of creating Charged Water Clusters as the researcher Moray King calls it, this is the Electrically Expanded Water, it is the manipulation of this exotic component of browns gas that will lead to an internal combustion engine being run on water without the need for a high level of technological input I believe. It is said that Archie Blue had six of these generators to run a car on water in New Zealand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa2sjMN8sMc&t=1209s&spfreload=10

[Bob Smith]

Firebrand,
FYI

[/size]Eric Dollard speaks on work going on that seems to be related to this topic, I believe, here, starting at 1:38:00 --https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lWoLH21ITys#t=5881"...doing the hydrogen-oxygen separation dielectrically instead of by electrolysis, as far as I'm concerned, from what I've seen definitely works. So the situation is, is to work with the appropriate harmonic wave form. The harmonic wave form is the critical part. And act upon water as a dielectric and to separate them by neutralizing the intermolecular binding forces ...it takes no energy to break the intermolecular binding forces by that means. Electrolysis is a forced situation. This isn't a forced situation. It's kind of an unlocking situation.  Now, the result of that is that you have hydrogen and oxygen separated, which desire to engage thermodynamically. Now when you go thru that thermodynamic conversion, that will give rise to energy. So, you have a situation with - potential situation - ...no energy required to break the water apart... "

See also:
http://overunity.com/16328/stan-meyers-initial-technology-replicated/msg474384/#msg474384


http://overunity.com/16328/stan-meyers-initial-technology-replicated/msg474392/#msg474392


Bob