re: energy producing experiments

[broli]

You seem to be contradicting yourself. I'm gathering data from YOUR experiment. Even if I was accounting for half the velocity the final energy should at least be double of what I can deduce from your video. At around 7 sec the tube stops completely and the sphere makes a half turn from bottom to top, in fact your average speed argument does not hold as the speed stays fairly constant because it took around 11 frames for a 90 degree turn from 6 to 3 o'clock and then another 11 frames from 3 to 12 o'clock. In other words 22 frames for 180 degree turn.


This is all from your own video.

[Delburt Phend]

But is there a portion in the 22 that is faster?

Is the cylinder moving a few mm per frame? Put that motion in the sphere and energy is way over.

[broli]

But is there a portion in the 22 that is faster?

Is the cylinder moving a few mm per frame? Put that motion in the sphere and energy is way over.

You will always argue the contrary even if the slow motion was at 1 million fps, you'll argue the excess velocity will be hidden in between frames. If you cannot analytically show an excess of energy then what's the point of claiming there is one?

[Delburt Phend]

It takes four frames to cross from one side of the black square to the other side; at the start and at the finish of the video. In https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaUmzekdxTQ  If energy produced all that heat it would drop to 16 frames by the end of the video. It would be hard to mistake 4 for 16; energy is not conserved. There is no heat given off when the spheres restart the cylinder. Only Newtonian momentum is conserved.

[sm0ky2]

It seems rather silly to make presumptionous acusations of some arbitrary energy
value, based on a partial (visual) analysis of only a small portion of the interactions
taking place. In short, you have yet to even identify all of your variables,
or present an accurate description of the momentum, or the changes in energy
throughout the system.


To make any definitive evaluation of what is going on, you must find a method of
gathering accurate real-time velocity data.
   Of not only the cylinder, but each individual weight, and their support strings.
Who's tension coefficient must also be taken into account.


https://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Tension-in-Physics


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotational_energy


consistency of release (not by your hand) is essential.
not just height, and mechanism of release.
But also orientation - as release from different orientations around the circumference
leads to different mathematical results.


there are pages of variables which are being ignored here
some are frivolous, while others can be shown to be rather significant
but they must be identified


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method


Accurate data, controlled variables, unbiased observation


there is a reason these things are important


if you are serious about investigating this device
then set up a 'controlled' experiment
and collect real data


Identify your variables, your controls, your hypothesis, and demonstrate
your conclusion, in a way that reflects the results of experiment, rather than
the results of your delusion.


the human self cannot make accurate measurement
because of the way our brains dilute the passage of time.
your physical state determines the length of the 'second' as you perceive it.
this experiment requires a tool to gather the data.
some way to accurately measure speed and distance, over time.


Video analysis CAN be a useful tool, but it has its limitations
and should not be considered an 'accurate' measurement device.
especially when all of the variables are not considered
i.e.: sample rate, processing speed (and relevant duty cycles),
         playback speed, buffering delays, compression ratios,
         angle and distances of observational perspective,
         this is a simplified short-list, but you get the idea.


A lot of time an effort has been put into this   
by its' inventor, and by others following along.
it's time to put away the crayons and put on your lab coats.