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re: energy producing experiments

Started by Delburt Phend, February 04, 2017, 09:31:19 AM

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Kator01

...wait until after the Gozilla-scene:....


momentum-transfer in plain sight


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vuVrGrdg0qo


Mike

Delburt Phend

An energy producing experiment is found in 'figure 7' in http://www.gyroscopes.org/masstran.asp. The title "mass transfer Laithwaite W.R.C. Dawson" A SYSTEM FOR THE TRANSFER OF MASS DERIVED FROM
THE PRINCIPLE OF CONSERVATION OF MOMENTUM' indicates that they expect momentum to be conserved by the masses transferring motion in figure 7.

From the overhead view the masses are initially moving up and down. The momentum to be shared with the center block is 'both masses time their speed'. If the center block has the same mass as the two pucks then the mass in motion will be twice as much.

When the mass is twice as much, and the momentum remains the same, then the velocity must drop to one half. At half the velocity the energy is half. So, the system in figure 7 has half the energy when the puck masses are fully extended up and down and the center block has half the momentum.

But from the position of full extension the masses come back around to the left. Their velocity times their mass is the same as their initial momentum. The center block is again stopped, and the energy of the extended masses is recovered in the left spring. That recovered energy is said to be the same as the initial energy. 

You could start the experiment where the small masses are fully extended, and the block is in motion. From this half energy position, you can go to the full energy position and double your energy per cycle. This is very significant because it proves that the law of conservation of energy is false, and that energy can be made in the lab.

So, why do debunkers of perpetual motion not sight experiments like this; but they would rather sight known frauds.

sm0ky2

Quote from: Delburt Phend on December 29, 2022, 12:19:36 PM
An energy producing experiment is found in 'figure 7' in http://www.gyroscopes.org/masstran.asp. The title "mass transfer Laithwaite W.R.C. Dawson" A SYSTEM FOR THE TRANSFER OF MASS DERIVED FROM
THE PRINCIPLE OF CONSERVATION OF MOMENTUM' indicates that they expect momentum to be conserved by the masses transferring motion in figure 7.

From the overhead view the masses are initially moving up and down. The momentum to be shared with the center block is 'both masses time their speed'. If the center block has the same mass as the two pucks then the mass in motion will be twice as much.

When the mass is twice as much, and the momentum remains the same, then the velocity must drop to one half. At half the velocity the energy is half. So, the system in figure 7 has half the energy when the puck masses are fully extended up and down and the center block has half the momentum.

But from the position of full extension the masses come back around to the left. Their velocity times their mass is the same as their initial momentum. The center block is again stopped, and the energy of the extended masses is recovered in the left spring. That recovered energy is said to be the same as the initial energy. 

You could start the experiment where the small masses are fully extended, and the block is in motion. From this half energy position, you can go to the full energy position and double your energy per cycle. This is very significant because it proves that the law of conservation of energy is false, and that energy can be made in the lab.

So, why do debunkers of perpetual motion not sight experiments like this; but they would rather sight known frauds.


Starting at the half point, you would have to input half of the final energy to increase the momentum enough to reach the final state, but only if it was in motion.
From a state of 0 momentum: the full energy is required from half to final state transition

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

sm0ky2

Take the example of 2 screwdrivers and two wrenches of different sizes.


At a particular moment, there is enough momentum in the larger wrench to shatter bone.
But you had to input more than that to get the system up to speed
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

sm0ky2

The "ideal case" is a boomerang.
It returns with close to 99% of its initial energy.


This is because of its shape and the angular momentum.
Air pressure is different in the top than the bottom
And also the angle gives it additional torque on top of the 'throw'


This gives it lift and conservation of energy.
Gravity, being a conservative field, returned all of that to it.
The >1% loss is from wind resistance, which can be reduced further with wax


The end result when it hits you in the head...
Is almost exactly the same momentum you imparted when you threw it


Which is your body mass + the mass of the weapon * velocity
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.