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Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.

Started by dieter, February 05, 2017, 04:14:19 PM

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dieter

@ Floor
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It's not that the basics are invalid...  I  think rather that...it is the assumptions


That is precisely what I think about the Lenz Law.
Basicly it says, when you induce a current, you'll get not only the current for your magnet motion, but as a bonus also the reactive, secondary field, for free. Unfortunately tho, Lenz continues, this free bonus energy will always be directed against the primary, inducing field.


It is unscientific to say that. He could have said "We haven't found a way around it yet".


It's all about Prestige... eg. what sounds better, Floors Observations or Floors Law?

dieter

@ All, in case you missed it, please see new FEMM screenshots with explanation on Page 3, thanks.

sm0ky2

When you stick iron to a magnet, in any form, shield or not
You redirect some of the field into and through the metal.


A real simple test to show if your motor will work as conceptualised
Would be to place a magnet in front of a coil and without moving the
Magnet - stick of iron around the magnet to "decrease" the field from
the coils perspective.
And see if any induction occurs.



I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Low-Q

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 15, 2017, 02:41:41 AM
When you stick iron to a magnet, in any form, shield or not
You redirect some of the field into and through the metal.


A real simple test to show if your motor will work as conceptualised
Would be to place a magnet in front of a coil and without moving the
Magnet - stick of iron around the magnet to "decrease" the field from
the coils perspective.
And see if any induction occurs.
That is exactly how electric guitar pickups work. There are magnetized iron rods close to each string. As the magnetic strings viberates, a signal is induced in the coil around the rods, and sends this signal to an amplifier.


Vidar

Low-Q

Quote from: dieter on February 15, 2017, 01:24:52 AM
@ Floor

That is precisely what I think about the Lenz Law.
Basicly it says, when you induce a current, you'll get not only the current for your magnet motion, but as a bonus also the reactive, secondary field, for free. Unfortunately tho, Lenz continues, this free bonus energy will always be directed against the primary, inducing field.


It is unscientific to say that. He could have said "We haven't found a way around it yet".


It's all about Prestige... eg. what sounds better, Floors Observations or Floors Law?
We haven't found a way around yet. That's true. However, I think that peopole stopped looking for it because the evedence is so obvious. Maybe they think "Why try to deny something that nature has already proven a godzillion times". It's basicly not worth it - my opinion.
Cause and effect is still valid untill someone cause something that doesn't have any effect. Or find the effect that did not have any known cause - like the Big Bang. Yes "known cause" - we just know there was a cause, but not what cause.


Vidar