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Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form

Started by sm0ky2, February 24, 2017, 11:16:20 AM

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gyulasun


gyulasun

Quote from: tinman on February 26, 2017, 08:09:18 AM
So, when we pulse a coil that is wrapped around a toroid core, the magnetic field continues to exist within that core

I believe it depends on the remanent magnetic properties of a particular toroid core. I think also that in case the 'perpetual motion holder' is made of solid iron, the several Amper input current involved behaves just like a normal magnetization process takes place to make a permanent magnet from a magnetizable material: it organizes the magnetic domains.
Here are two videos you may or may not have seen and I think these tests are a good example how this phenomena depends on the magnetic properties of the different cores:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbQXnXK6Xc  Part 1 (9 minute long)   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsN2sr3U0PY    Part 2 (2 minute long)

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until we reverse pulse the coil -at which time the magnetic field is now !!spinning!!? in the opposite direction around the toroid core for all time, or until such time as we pulse it once again, with the opposite polarity.

I do not know whether the field or whatever inside is 'spinning' or not, I think a reverse pulse would rearrange the direction of the magnetic domains and the field would also be maintained like in the earlier polarity case.

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Even though we cannot measure a voltage from the coil, due to the magnetic field not changing in time, we know that the magnetic field still exist within the core -even when you short the two ends of the coil.

Well, a test done at and from video time 4:00 in Part 1 of the above link shows the behaviour of two core types in this respect.

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So, not only are we trying to build a new electric field around the coil when we switch polarity, but also trying the reverse the magnetic field that exists within the core itself.

Yes, when we reverse the direction of the input current we invariably flip the magnetic polarity exerted onto the core too.

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Also, if the fields cannot be distinguished from one another, how can it not be one field? -a magnetic field without a north and south (as we have termed it). It's much like mixing red paint with yellow paint at a 1:1 ratio--we then have only orange paint.

Let me suggest the following thought experiment: suppose we are able to move a tiny compass inside a toroidal core on which a coil is biased with DC current (or we could move a tiny compass inside a perpetual motion holder).

Suppose we position the compass inside the toroid core at 12 o'clock and it shows say North to the right and shows South to the left of the 12 i.e. the compass would set in tangentially to the core circle at 12 o'clock. I think when we would move the tiny compass say in the cw direction within the core body, the compass would always show a leading North as it would move ahead in cw direction, it would never turn direction so that a leading South would never come somewhere within the core during this cw direction movement. We could perform any full circle in cw, we would always have a leading North indicated on the tiny compass.
When we would reverse the input current direction, only then would our tiny compass change direction.

This is how I see this. Of course I am sure I cannot answer several things which may crop up with this topic.

Gyula

gyulasun


Searcher1o1

So if the magnetic field continues to circulate the electric field never collapses.

Evidently a ferrous core cant be used in a dc pulsed system.

Went down the same road about a month ago.

Russ left a pmh hanging for two years and when he broke the magnetic field the electric field collapsed and lit leds.

Was the TPU air core or maybe a single strand of wire.

Searcher1o1

Tesla gave us a gift that is overlooked, the rotary switch, a simple wheel with magnets passing reed switches will allow numerous coils to be pulsed in numerous configurations.
Just some ideas to ponder  :)