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Overunity Machines Forum



Is The Iron-Core Of An Electromagnet Overunity ?

Started by guest1289, February 22, 2017, 02:02:36 PM

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guest1289

QuoteThe iron core is passive and only helps to focus the field of the coil.

  That sounds more believable than overunity
   ( although I still believe there  'may'   have been some overunity-generators that worked in the past and present, that used   'iron-cores',   but who really knows what the source of their overunity was / is )

   If the  motor/device you posted is designed to utilize the energy of  electromagnetic-eddies,  instead of working against them,  that is exactly what  erfinder 's  device must do,  because that is what he repeatedly states,  he posted a video in the last week or two, 
     basically I think his device must be generating as much  electromagnetic-eddies  as possible,  and he channels that current of the wheel( or something),    that wheel does not seem to spin as fast as you'd expect to create such a high power spark,   it must be an unusually efficient generator,  something like a very modified  Faraday-disk-generator,  or,  is that wheel made of a static or anti-static plastic
   (  I had a really odd idea,  that if you put strong neos on one side( or inside or something ) of the farday-disk,   if that disk was made of almost anything other than copper,  or ,  if the entire disk was actually a magnet,  that that would increase the amount of  electromagnetic-eddies  produced by a significant factor
   I don't know if   erfinder 's  device   is a self-running device,  I can't see any mention of it being one,  however I thought he implied earlier it is one
   
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   I wanted to add to my previous post on this thread,  I wonder if the  magnetic-field-component  of the  electromagnetic-field  emitted by electrical-conductors,  is as a result of electrical-conductors  being turned into  'temporary-magnets'  by the electric-current flowing through them,  effectively like  'temporary-magnets'   induced by  permanent-magnets(non-electric ),     and the  electric-field-component of their  electromagnetic-field is from the electric-current .


dieter

I think there is only a magnetic field and an electric field, but no electromagnetic field. There is electromagnetic interaction tho. The creation of a magnetic field around a conductor is a sideeffect that by its own is for free, but when this field induces current flow externally (be it eddy currents, a coil, any ring...), this current flow causes the secondary magnetic fields, basicly following Lenzes law and counterinducing an opposite current flow, partially neutralizing the primary field.


Eddy currents, being 1turn shortened coils, will basicly generate heat waste, as in induction cooking plates.


But iron, even tho passive, truely holds the key to various OU concepts, as it is a temporary magnet or magnetic vector deformer.


I myself use Iron to actually violate the law of conservation of energy. But you cannot simply plug a cord to it, it takes a bit more.


See my latest pdf in the files download section if you're interested in how I do that.

Zephir

QuoteIs The Iron-Core Of An Electromagnet Overunity?
It's the concentrator of energy. But there is probably much more to hide (1, 2, 3,...). The ferromagnetism is high-temperature quantum phenomena, i.e. analogy of room temperature superconductivity, which still waits for this recognition. And the quantum mechanics could violate thermodynamic time arrow in wide extent. The important point is, the ability of iron to concentrate the energy can be switched on and off just by its magnetization. At high magnetic flux the iron behaves just like the aluminum or copper with respect to magnet - it's not magnetic anymore, being "saturated". The trick is just in concentration of energy, which requires some time for to establish itself. Before the steady-state equilibrium and energy balance gets established, some portion of energy could leak both into, both from outside environment, for example in form of heat.

guest1289

QuoteI am not concerned with the efficiency of the device, and no its nothing to do with the Faraday disk generator, nor is it a wheel made of static or anti-static plastic....

the spark in your video,  seems different to something like the spark from an  arc-welder,

all this is an area I know nothing about,   and  I don't know if you have actually claimed a specific achievement

the spark in your video  reminded me of how the light/electricity  produced by  Moray's famous device was described by the people who inspected it,  and  the photos of  it ,  although I  type that because I can't think of any other comment,  since you don't seem to make specific claims

  obviously your device has nothing to do with Moray's device( and Moray's device is more or less confirmed to be atomic powered ),  however,  his device may have produced an  extremely  high-frequency  output

   maybe your device multiplies frequency to such an extent that it produces a frequency that is almost never encountered by people on this site

  (  or maybe it does  'something-similar-to'  combining 2 currents with an identical waveform into one output,  but 100% out of phase from each other, 
     or,  maybe it combines currents with different waveforms   )

  you repeat the term  'reactive' in your posts,  maybe you have found a way to make 'conducting-materials' react to achieve what ever it is,  maybe by a method similar to one I mentioned in this post