The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[tinman]

T. K.                              Battery is source when switch is on - coil becomes the source when switch is off

I would say no.
The collapsing magnetic field becomes the source ,when switch becomes open.
The coil converts this collapsing/changing magnetic field into current flow-much like an ICE converts gasoline into rotational torque.
The changing magnetic field is the fuel.


Brad

[tinman]

Is that you again, Chris?

Lol 

[tinman]

Negative current

Current flowing through a wire in both directions at the same time

Negative micro Heneries

OU pancake coils

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

[nelsonrochaa]

I posted this a while back but I am going to post it again for the benefit (maybe) of the people that don't seem to like the idea of peer review.

I couple of years ago I put together a circuit that was showing more power out than in.  I was excited.  I shared it on a forum and Luc asked if he could replicate it.  I knew his reputation and of course said yes.  When he got it completed he did not get the same results I did.  We went over together the circuit and his was exactly like mine.  He then suggested I recheck my meters.  When I did I found that the trusty meter I had been using for years was actually reading the input power much lower than it really was.  It had always been very accurate before so something had happened to it.  I thanked Luc for helping me and apologized for getting everyone excited over another circuit that didn't pan out.  That is what peer review is about.  We check each other and verify or not the results someone claims.
Carroll

Hi Carroll,

I'm full agree with your own example,

His important we admit things like happened to you , because sometimes meters could have defective problems or even measure incorrectly under some circumstances ,  and is a good procedure our work be validate by external independent people , with the right tools and other technical know how, and even that could be not enough because some manifestations could be not measurable because their nature , make interested people need to find other valid ways of measurement, and study some of that manifestations to reach a result .

Ever time i see my systems validate by independent persons in industry  , i get happy even when results could be not what i will like hear , and that is the spirit , search all time by true . is not that almost people search ?

Myself believe in that 500% , the only thing that i disagree, is  that  someone be "judged" only by assumptions  and that is clearly not a good way to deal with things.

We could find several examples in internet youtube of some announced "free energy" devices in last years and our first reaction will be say is a bullshit , because we could clearly see that devices not fit in a reasonable meaning of our present knowledge , but we knows , most of this videos was made only to catch attentions to earn some money  , damaging the reputation of true researchers in this area , and that to me seems not reasonable , being me , believer in this field of alternative research . 

We should be very carefull, when we are make "judges" of something without any real data . I Really believe that some people on that forum have really high technical knowledge like you,  but that could be sometimes a two sides knife if their assume that is nothing to be understood.

Myself in some my work presentations in "real life"  , already saw more than one time former Eng people from independent  company's have similar behavior,  only attack me based in their own already acquire knowledge, and even without i show anything ,  and after we go to practical tests and even with their own measurements and tests, they say  that some of things that they see, are not reasonable under their knowledge  and should not possible to happen in "real world" , and they are judge by direct observation not by videos, and with their own measures, their own tools .

In that way seems to me not reasonable that most of times people in this forum with new ideas, be judge by others without any know particular data , and only based in assumptions, strangle their own evolution sometimes .

I'm not referring to myself in particularly, because i not share my work to be evaluated in this forum in opensource  , but i'm talk about several others researchers that work in open source that sometimes see their effort and dedication not respected when they are judge in that way .

We should think that we are all learning every minute that we breath , and we should not impose something like indisputable because we have several laws that actually need to be reformulated not to delete the work done so far, but improve the same, otherwise the humankind is not growing but dying.


Cheers

Nelson Rocha

[nelsonrochaa]

Negative current

Current flowing through a wire in both directions at the same time

Negative micro Heneries

OU pancake coils

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

This is the spirit of some ....