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Overunity Machines Forum



Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback

Started by Jdo300, November 20, 2006, 01:26:19 AM

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Adzoe

I am eager to see Tao come back with his replication including a solenoid and the resistor.  From examining a frame by frame of the video the capacitor appears to be a 220mfd. 



Perhaps someone can identify this capacitor and resistor for certain.

Tao's replication has the problem of excessive drag on the rotor due to the large cross section.

hartiberlin

Quote from: peter_schmalenbach on November 22, 2006, 04:19:44 PM
Hello all,

I have found the solution!

The device in the video is a simple (but very good adjusted) "Adams - Motor".

The  inventor is a Mr. Robert Adams (but it is not the man in the video). Mr. Adams had invented this device and similar variations about 25 years ago.

You can find all informations (plans, descriptions, pictures) here:

http://www.melog.ch/adams

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1287/adams/adamsall.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&q=Motor+Robert+Adams&meta=

It is a very good thing.

When a permanent magnet passes the core of the big electromagnet, the permanent magnet induces a magnetic field in the coil. Then the reed - contact shorts the coil (short-circuit). The now flowing current gives a kick to the permanent magnet in the right polarity and the rotor continues its rotation (also using the inertia of the permanent magnets in the right moment).

The trick is the collapsing field of the big coil.

The little cap and the resistor are only there to avoid sparks into the reed - contact.

The big cap improved the function (collecting the rest - current of the coil when the reed - contact is off (open)? / plan (circuit) necessary).

Unknown is not yet the function of the twisted wires.


Best regards
Peter Schmalenbach, Germany



Hi Peter,
I watched the video again and I must say, you are probably right !
At around 6;30 you can hear the clicking sound of the reed relay switch...
So now I wonder, where exactly is such a reed relay switch located  ?
Inside the coil ?
Where, at the lower side of the iron core ?

As there are only 2 connectors at the coil, I wonder, if the reed switch
is in parallel with the coil or in series with the coil.

Maybe it is in series with the coil ?

How does it normally work in a magnetron , or what he was speaking of where it was used ?

I think you are right, the twisted pair wire is only to make a show or
maybe be tried earlier to hook up a minilamp at the end of the pair via
the big charged up capacitor, but did not get it to light up... and then decided
just to let it run, but not to light up a load with it ???

So I guess you are right, this thing is only working due to the Lentz law violation effects
with the generated coil voltage being shorted out or dumped during the switching
and then the rotating magnet gets a kick and can rotate on.

1. So basically the magnet is attracted to the iron core of the coil, this induces
a voltage inside the coil, but this voltage is not yet dumped onto something,
open circuit.
2. When the magnet is top dead center over the iron core,
the reed switch is closed and it pushes the voltage "charge" onto the cap
or shorts out the coil, so the current pulse will again generate a magnet field
which will be kick the magnet away and give ita spin to overcome friction.

So this is classical Lentz law violation.

Now the question still is, if the reed switch shorts out the coil
or switches the coils across the cap ?

The big cap and the resistor were probably only there to try to store
some output voltage in the bigger cap to run a load via the twisted pair wire
and he later deceided, that not much power was left and did not cut the
twisted wire off...

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

mikestocks2006

Stefan
We can't be sure if the wires are just for show. The video shows he tried to move it the opposite direction but it only seems to work one way. Over the twisted pair, then large cap, then coil.

Unless he didn't push it hard enough the other way? 3:02-31:15 frames?

BTW: there are about 30 posts in the You-tube page. Yours is there too Stefan
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=P4sapBLNMoM&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DP4sapBLNMoM

It woul be great if the builder comes back with details, instructions, and parts list as he indicated he would do in one of his msgs there

Adzoe

Mervace himself said that the best comment on the video was "I have a notion the device is being misrepresented."

I suspect this is an admission on his part that all things are not as they seem.  The "resistor" in the photo I posted has a suspicious bump near one end.  What does that mean?

Perhaps Mervace is a bit of a charlatan leading us on for some interesting discussion and a good laugh.  If I had an overunity device some 15 years ago it would be far advanced today, and I would certainly have exploited the same for my own benefit and that of the world.

hartiberlin

Quote from: mikestocks2006 on November 22, 2006, 07:56:58 PM
Stefan
We can't be sure if the wires are just for show. The video shows he tried to move it the opposite direction but it only seems to work one way. Over the twisted pair, then large cap, then coil.

Unless he didn't push it hard enough the other way? 3:02-31:15 frames?

BTW: there are about 30 posts in the You-tube page. Yours is there too Stefan
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=P4sapBLNMoM&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DP4sapBLNMoM

It woul be great if the builder comes back with details, instructions, and parts list as he indicated he would do in one of his msgs there


Did you try to post also any comment there ?
Please all do this there and please also try to post
the tread link of this overunity forum.

Does your comments gets through ?
Only 3 of my comments went through and my
other about 10 comments did not...
I wonder if the video-poster does censor them
or if Youtube has currently some problems.
Youtube always says, comments are stored and are added,
but nothing appears.

Please can you try it also to post a comment there ?
Many thanks.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum