Witness the Free Energy effect

[Zephir]

@Vortex1 kindly pointed me again to the fact, that the coil collecting output signal should be placed over capacitor plates, not beneath them. But because the device requires high AC voltage at the capacitor, I'd recommend to decouple the coil and capacitor completely and to measure output signal from longer ferrite rod, where the capacitor can be shielded from induction coil with grounded cover. This will eliminate the stray current, which @Theoretical_Research did talk about at the beginning and the need of their complex separation (FFT?) from output.

Or you can measure the signal from another arm of ferrite core, than this one, which you will use for energizing with capacitor. Such an arrangement will indeed decrease the power output, because portion of ferrite volume will not be energized anymore - but it will eliminate the risk of leaking of stray currents from capacitor into the coil.

[Theoretical Research]

Hi guys. Sorry if there's any confusion. The first post in this thread shows a photo of the first core I used for the EGS effect experiment.

http://overunity.com/17236/witness-the-free-energy-effect/msg504603/#msg504603

Hopefully it's clear in the photo that the outter core has copper foil (connect to ground), and the inner part of the core also has copper foil. The two copper foils are not connected to each other. See the link for LTspice file if you're interested in building the EGS effect experiment. It is extremely important to enter all the correct parameters in the spice file according to your core and equipment, even your scope probe capacitance. Generally speaking probe cap in 10X is 12pF and 1X is 120pF, but can vary a lot. It is extremely important to measure the core inductance and the capacitance of the two copper foil plates at the frequency you will be using. LCR meters will give you incorrect readings because that's usually low frequency inductance and capacitance. Again I only recommend using the tv high voltage flyback rectangle cores. I'm certain there are much better cores, but they're the best ones I've tested. Measure the resistance of the core with your DVM to be certain it's not a good electrically conductor. Place your DMV leads near each other. It should be over 100Mohm.

LTspice file
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-xHtkgb2eiJM2VFaVFLR1h2d2c


When time permits I'll pass on the digital EGS effect experiment LTspice circuit.

[Zephir]

Hi, Theoretical Research,

thank You for your attention and kind support...:-) I'll check the Spice file for sure.

It's difficult because the electro-gravity-space effect voltage is extremely small compared to the voltage on the capacitor, which produces significant leakage due to stray capacitance.

What do you say about my proposal for elimination of the stray capacitance by separation of coil and capacitor with shielding? Will the effect still persist in your device? It should..

[vasik041]

Hi guys. Sorry if there's any confusion. The first post in this thread shows a photo of the first core I used for the EGS effect experiment.

http://overunity.com/17236/witness-the-free-energy-effect/msg504603/#msg504603

Hopefully it's clear in the photo that the outter core has copper foil (connect to ground), and the inner part of the core also has copper foil. The two copper foils are not connected to each other. See the link for LTspice file if you're interested in building the EGS effect experiment. It is extremely important to enter all the correct parameters in the spice file according to your core and equipment, even your scope probe capacitance. Generally speaking probe cap in 10X is 12pF and 1X is 120pF, but can vary a lot. It is extremely important to measure the core inductance and the capacitance of the two copper foil plates at the frequency you will be using. LCR meters will give you incorrect readings because that's usually low frequency inductance and capacitance. Again I only recommend using the tv high voltage flyback rectangle cores. I'm certain there are much better cores, but they're the best ones I've tested. Measure the resistance of the core with your DVM to be certain it's not a good electrically conductor. Place your DMV leads near each other. It should be over 100Mohm.

LTspice file
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-xHtkgb2eiJM2VFaVFLR1h2d2c


When time permits I'll pass on the digital EGS effect experiment LTspice circuit.

Hi Theoretical Research,

It would be nice if you can draw simple diagram to illustrate your setup.
I still not sure what you propose to test.

[Vortex1]

Shielding as suggested by Zephir is certainly a good idea and worth exploring, in fact the whole device should also be foil shielded to eliminate stray mains and other interference.

You may be interested in my early experiments with a core here under username ION:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.msg60861#msg60861

I am considering using a simple passive bridge arrangement where the output signal is nulled against the input signal in the hopes of higher differentation of the gravity signal.

This can be accomplished simply with a multiturn potentiometer across the driving source. One end of the coil output comes to the slider of the potentiometer. Proper phasing of the coil should allow  for a null signal when the potentiometer is adjusted to match the coil output. Then variations of position should yield a reasonable signal.

With the addition of some simple R's and C's even the phase can be nulled. The final output can be further amplified if desired or necessary. An op amp can also be used to null the signal against the drive, but I like passive.

Regards